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I suspect that if the moms and grandmoms were there, it would change the conversation.

mk I'd love to see you fictionalize that conversation. Do you know anything about your great, great great, or great great great grandfathers?

I can imagine the life of one of my great grandfathers. I have a biography of him. He had 13 children. One of them was my paternal grandmother, another was my maternal grandfather. In the biography, not a word - not a single word mentions his family life.