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ghostoffuffle  ·  1717 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: A Racist in the White House

    Our country has changed,” Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. wrote for the majority. “While any racial discrimination in voting is too much, Congress must ensure that the legislation it passes to remedy that problem speaks to current conditions.

Chief Justice John Robert's, 2013 following the Supreme Court's decision dismantling the core of the 1965 Voting Rights Act.

Thank god overt racism is a thing of the past, hey, Roberts?

The only thing that changed this week is that Trump discarded any last semblance of subtlety in his appeal to a racist base. He was dog whistling before, and that was despicable, but it still gave everybody a moral back door- the ability so say "you're reading too far into this." What now? Why have we met the past three days with anything less than unanimous outrage? What has happened to us?





oyster  ·  1716 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Man, we get a lot of American tourists where I live and I just watched 2 try to figure the internet out for a solid 15 minutes until they found his tweets and one chuckled and said “ so I guess that’s what’s considered racist these days”. All hope is lost.

ghostoffuffle  ·  1716 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I know those people. I work with them. The people that take that approach are despicable. Like, in every way.

oyster  ·  1716 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The line of what is too far and unacceptable to these people is creeping steadily towards mass genocide as Trumps administration continues to dehumanize entire groups of people. When somebodies response to causing children lifelong psychological trauma by putting them in cages is but did there parents bring them here legally there isn’t a lot they would perceive as racist. I was extremely tempted to follow these people around until they complained about something like road work so I could tell them to go back to their own country if they don’t like it and fix their own awful crumbling infrastructure.

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kleinbl00  ·  1716 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Personally, I think what changed is the resurfacing of Jeffrey Epstein.

ghostoffuffle  ·  1716 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't even think it's that subtle. I feel like he might have needed some red meat to feed the base after his "widespread deportation" plan failed to materialize. So instead of thousands deported, we got a piggish little man telling a few non-white politicians to go back to where they came from. Which would be funny if it weren't, you know, entirely not. Regardless of motivation, the bigger issue for me is that so many people are totally fine with it, and so many more seem to have just accepted it as the status quo.

kleinbl00  ·  1716 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't know that "subtle" plays into it. Trump doesn't like reacting, he likes acting. So when he reacts, he lashes out in another direction so that he controls the conversation. "Did Trump frequent a child sex ring" has become "will Republicans defend Trump's racism" because he chose to prove that his base gives no fucks, not because the SDNY decided to shake the tree. Likewise, "I'm for strong borders" has steadily morphed to "children in cages" and Pence standing resolutely staring down a bunch of refugees in cages didn't properly shift the discussion.

As to the people who are totally fine with hit...

... it's definitely easier for me bouncing between Seattle and Los Angeles to be dispassionate about it. I fly from liberal enclave to liberal enclave and from a place I employ immigrants to a place where they're my neighbors. Mitch McConnell is a cartoon supervillain, not my elected representative. So I can argue that what's happened has been an attempted shift in norms, with everyone attempting to toe the line of what's acceptable and the only way they can figure out how to do that is by trying it out.

There's a large, vocal minority that really wants the norms of 1939. They really want homosexuality to be an unspeakable sin, for African Americans to be second- or third-class citizens, for white nationalism to be the status quo. They're actively doing everything they can to convince everyone around them that blacks and whites don't marry. That the only good gay love is closeted gay love. And they're shouting that into the conversation as loud as they humanly can.

But the real problem is that our culture isn't strong enough anymore to shut them the fuck down immediately.

I think most of the people who aren't saying enough against racism are not saying enough because they're hopeful the problem will go away on its own without them having to take a stand. People suck at taking stands. Most of us are fundamentally cowards and we have a lot to lose. And I think this isn't a permanent shift - I think this is uncontrolled flailing because there's nobody strong enough to stand up and say STOP.

Trump is dominating the conversation right now because he shouts the loudest. But we have a lot more articulate, outspoken voices of opposition now than we did two years ago, and I think that trend will continue.

I just hope the fuckers don't shoot AOC or Omar before we get there.

ghostoffuffle  ·  1716 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Last post of mine overly venomous even for me. I agree with what you said above.

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mk  ·  1716 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You think Epstein is going to sing about Trump?

kleinbl00  ·  1716 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think conspiracy theories exist because governments are largely held together by acquaintances that humor each other, not parliamentary procedure.

I think that the world is run by a who-knows-who and that in far too many cases, the electoral process is more like a frat hazing than an actual decision.

I think that voters vote for representatives but the representatives they're voting for are not the result of a natural, stochastic process.

And I think that Epstein knows too much about too many of the who-knows-whos and I think we're looking at one of those nasty inflection points where the level below the who-knows-whos leverage the outrage of the crowd to cycle the power structure.

Epstein gonna burn. And when a blackmailer is looking at a stake and heaped faggots he's gonna say whatever he can to make them use green wood.