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kleinbl00  ·  252 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: How Do I Escape a Submerged Car? (In Case You Were Wondering)

This one has always bugged me.

Traffic fatalities in 2017: 40,100

Vehicle drowning deaths, the last time anyone estimated (2004-2007): 384

Percentage of traffic deaths that are drownings: 0.96%

Percentage of vehicular drownings also involving a rollover: 63%

Percentage of vehicular drownings also involving another vehicle: 12%

    The most common scenario was a single vehicle leaving the roadway, colliding with a fixed object and then rolling over before ultimately becoming submerged. He further reported that in cases where restraint use was known, the victim was unrestrained more than half the time.

So let's review: if you're in a fatality-grade accident, there's a less than 1% chance you're going to drown. If you're in that less than 1%, there's a better than 50% chance you're not wearing your seatbelt and 63% chance you've flipped the f'ing car. You are, in short, driving like a ragged asshole.

    When motor vehicle submersion deaths caused by flooding are considered, the number of annual incidents grows by at least another 60 deaths. According to Flood Fatalities in the United States, “[f]loods are the second-deadliest U.S. weather-related hazard.” Northern Illinois University researchers compiled a comprehensive flood dataset for a 47 year period spanning 1959–2005, and found 4.586 flood fatalities in the contiguous U.S. They concluded that, “[f]or all flood types, a majority of fatalities occurred in vehicles (63%).”

Here's the thing: for a vehicular drowning to enter your future you have to have made some pretty dire mistakes. Chances are good you're not sitting there rationally. There's been a long list of bad decisions here and remembering five steps from Popular Mechanics probably isn't going to help you out much (especially if you've rolled your car without a seatbelt on, which statistically speaking, is exactly what you just did). Yet the mindspace of this particular dilemma is huge - there are more instances on that page than, statistically speaking, vehicular drownings in four months nationwide.

That bridge in Mt. Vernon? Where the road suddenly was in the river?

Nobody drowned.




katakowsj  ·  251 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sure you have math and numbers and history and evidence and reasoning and common sense on your side, but I'm gonna have my damned life savin' hammer, no, my glock to protect me from some bridge built by some pointy-headed know-it-all that freaking collapses under me, probably 'cause some eeeleegal alien waz drivin' the semi that hit that wimpy bridge and my pickup truck and my six cases of Marlboro Reds that I'd picked up at the Piggly-wiggly. Sheeit!

moslydeaf  ·  250 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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kleinbl00  ·  251 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Would you... like a six month supply of dehydrated food to go with that?

_refugee_  ·  250 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hey don’t make fun of the fact that my car has been equipped with short term emergency life supplies ever since the last time I read cujo ! D:

kleinbl00  ·  250 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I sincerely hope they bring you comfort and are useless to the end of your days.

katakowsj  ·  251 days ago  ·  link  ·  

:)

Thumbs up on your original analysis of the situation. Now how do we get a bulk of the folks around us to recognize the math that actually defines their reality?

kleinbl00  ·  251 days ago  ·  link  ·  
tacocat  ·  251 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And some Super Male Vitality

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