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cgod  ·  2604 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Aaaaand the other shoe drops: Trump himself met with Kislyak

It's not the crime, it's the cover up?

So far it's just Sessions lying under oath.

Don't bring up the Logan act, it's nothing but liberal Benghazi level bullshit at this point.





goobster  ·  2603 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Lying to Congress is an actual crime. So is meeting with our "enemies" and making agreements and promises to them that you intend to act upon if elected to office. Both of these are well-defined, and he breached both of them, clearly.

He met with Kislyak in April. Now he told Congress he has "never spoken with the man" and the last conversation he "ever had with a Russian, was more than two years ago." Both of these are lies under oath, and therefore punishable.

Are they a big deal? Did he discuss more than the Playboy Centerfold?

It doesn't matter WHAT they talked about. Real politicians keep a diligent list of every single person they talk to, and every topic they cover, for specifically these reasons. To mislead or lie to Congress is a Federal offense.

And really? Benghazi? Investigated nine different times - five times by partisan Republican hit squads - and NONE of them ever found any credible wrongdoing or broken laws? Time to update your psycho right wing talking points, my friend.

am_Unition  ·  2603 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    So is meeting with our "enemies" and making agreements and promises to them that you intend to act upon if elected to office. Both of these are well-defined, and he breached both of them, clearly.

We don't yet have clear (public) evidence of the latter, and no one seems to agree on the definition of "meeting".

cgod  ·  2603 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think I pretty clearly mentioned that Sessions lied to Congress.

    So is meeting with our "enemies" and making agreements and promises to them that you intend to act upon if elected to office.
Still waiting on evidence of this.

Lol, right wing talking points. Bring some evidence of wrongdoing, make a case, turn witnesses. The wheels of justice turn slowly but the gears have very fine teeth.

Tamp down your liberal hysteria friend.

am_Unition  ·  2603 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Unfortunately, my boss doesn't give a shit that I'm feeling like it would be prudent to take a month off in an effort to make sense of recent events. And it would take me more than a month straight of 15 hour days of research to feel like I had any sort of handle on an objective truth.

Nobody knows what's real anymore, and I'm past the point of blaming people for parroting militarized talking points. Sometimes I wonder if I'm doing the same thing, and it becomes very difficult to discern when it is happening. We've all been deceived many times over, and the ride is far from finished.

I've said it elsewhere, sorry to repeat myself, but I want people to evaluate how truthful they perceive this statement to be:

    I think we are very clearly in a civil war, of sorts. The battlefield is public opinion, and the weaponry is information. The noise has long since drowned out the signal. I'm not really sure what happens next.
am_Unition  ·  2604 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Both sides will have more than a few action items looooong before we're done here. But I'm not sure it's as simple as "sides" anymore.