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_refugee_  ·  1551 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: COFFEE PROVEN TO BE BAD FOR YOU YET AGAIN

    “Think about it: People who drink a lot of coffee tend to be high stress, high pressure, intense and compulsive,” said Dr. Alfred Neugut, a professor of cancer research, medicine and epidemiology at Columbia University and a director of NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital’s Cancer Prevention Center. “If they have cancer, they’re going to be more obsessive about following all the rules and doing all the things they’re supposed to do..."

Woah is it me or is that like major unsupported extrapolation? I drink shit tons of caffeine in the form of energy drinks. Granted, they're not coffee, but they're purported to have similar effects on alertness, energy, etc. (A reasonable estimate for an average day is that I consume 250 mg caffeine or more)

I really don't think that my willingness to consume nearly consequence-free (minor) performance enhancers on a daily basis indicates whether or not I'd obsessively follow health rules set by my doctor. I think it indicates more that I'd be willing to take on some extra risks in case they pay off, in terms of treatment. (I actually...resent and avoid my doctor, at least right now)

I guess he is trying to say, "Coffee drinkers tend to be Type A. Type A people tend to be good at following doctors' instructions when their life is imminently on the line." I can see that more. But I'm still not convinced. He says that people who consume significant coffee on a daily basis are probably "compulsively health-conscious," that doesn't really jive with me 100% either. What about all those people who love cigarettes with their coffee?

    The analysis determined the lowered risk associated with coffee was entirely because of the caffeine.
WOOT WOOT well at least my monsters should help then

Guys, remember when they used to tell you that caffeinated beverages/diet beverages would actually make you dehydrated because of the caffeine/sodium? Despite all that liquid the caffeine/sodium came suspended in, that somehow those components could just negate all the rest of the drink? That always struck me as ridiculous. There's no way I can consume 20 oz liquid and end up more dehydrated than I was, unless it's salt water or I sweat it all out through my pores. Fuckin' pop sci.





b_b  ·  1551 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    That always struck me as ridiculous. There's no way I can consume 20 oz liquid and end up more dehydrated than I was, unless it's salt water or I sweat it all out through my pores. Fuckin' pop sci.

Salt water makes you more hydrated. There's a reason Gatorade is packed full of it.

_refugee_  ·  1551 days ago  ·  link  ·  

See, exactly. Even I'm wrong.

(I was thinking about how drinking ocean water will kill you when I made that remark.)

b_b  ·  1551 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well you're correct in that regard. The salinity of seawater is higher than the salinity in your body. Therefore, to excrete it, you need extra water (since the salinity of urine can't exceed the salinity of your body), which does dehydrate you. Like many chemicals, salt is essential for life, but too much is toxic.

kleinbl00  ·  1551 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's not the sort of quote I'd want to make on the record, for sure.

Also...

_refugee_  ·  1551 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Diet all the things. When they interview me as an old famous whatever and ask me what my secret is I am going to tell them I stayed healthy and consumed lots of preservatives.

kleinbl00  ·  1551 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Get a liver function test and report back for science.