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comment by am_Unition

The majority of my family is pretty disheartened by the news.

Ha ha, fuckers. Separate your church and state.





user-inactivated  ·  3225 days ago  ·  link  ·  

"Oh no! America became a little more free today! This is horrible!"

am_Unition  ·  3225 days ago  ·  link  ·  

"The sanctity of marriage is ordained by God!"

I'm going to start an inflammatory campaign about how Jesus was gay. I'll need the hair guy from Ancient Aliens.

aerowid  ·  3225 days ago  ·  link  ·  
am_Unition  ·  3225 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Welp, I'm sold.

Vox_R  ·  3225 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Mine here, too. And I'm thinking the same thing.

I'm fairly certain that makes me a horrible person.

b_b  ·  3225 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Care to articulate why? Serious question.

I can't speak for the group, but I'm genuinely curious, and I won't jump down anyone's throat for disagreeing with the majority if the opinion is honest and sincere.

Vox_R  ·  3225 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sorry, I completely misspoke there.

I, personally, am dancing around the office. I have good friends that are affected by this decision, and I'm beyond ecstatic for them. This is a huge step in the right direction to treating humans like humans regardless of [insert descriptor here].

The entirety of my family, however, are diehard Mormons and see this as some sign of the end times. What I'm thinking is the same thing as am_Unition: "Ha ha, fuckers. Separate your church and state."

b_b  ·  3225 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh, so you feel like a horrible person for betraying your family, or thinking less of them? I took your statement to mean you are disappointed by the ruling, and think you're horrible because you have a conflict between your moral beliefs and your sense of civil equality.

Vox_R  ·  3225 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The betrayal of family thing was something I had to go through about six years ago, but have since gotten over. Though I'll never really get over that huge feeling of disappointment weighing on my gut that someone I once respected so highly---my father---could be so desperately close-minded.

The horrible person aspect? It's because my first inclination after many heated debates with most of the members of my family was to gloat. Six years of trying to show them that this was the right path, I feel like I deserve some "I told you so!" time, but doesn't change that it kinda turns me into an ass.

lil  ·  3225 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You must have gone through a difficult process of breaking away from the indoctrination. Losing family is hard, but good for you for freeing your mind to think for itself.

I also have family members who belong to a fundamentalist religion, and while they secretly think that their invisible friends are better than everyone else's invisible friends, we are still able to be very close and loving and mutually accepting (I think, more or less, well most of us).

nyfiken  ·  3219 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Gloating is evil. You have evil inside of you. But so do all of us. That you recognize it for what it is, and actively try to suppress it, is good enough; it means that you are ultimately a good person.

sakonyachen  ·  3219 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sometimes the reason a person feels like an ass is because an ass would never feel like an ass. I wouldn't be too hard on myself if I were you. Sometimes when people become addicted to antiquated illogical dogma, you gotta use some tough love.

hootsbox  ·  3206 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Which is a faulty SCOTUS decision based on a Thomas Jefferson letter that had the opposite intent from what the biased SCOTUS decision "found" in the 1st Amendment that isn't really there (like Dred Scott). The Baptists were petioning the Virginia legislature to not have their voice shut out. The statement "wall of separation" came out of Jefferson's response with the main intent being that "government" should not favor one denomination over another. Out of that, we get the "fabrication" of the separation of church and state that you allude to, but is totally baseless in the nation's founding discussions, the founding state constitutions and most of our history. It wasn't until the 1950's that a biased, ACLU slanted SCOTUS made this fabricated ruling which should be overturned due to its faulty rationale. However, the Congress, in the last 90 years, remains "gutless" to pursue the Constitutional remedy. The fact remains the "buzzwords" you so readily toss about are capacious talking points promoted and kept alive by an all too complicit and slanted mainstream press and career politicians more interested in preserving their political "hides" than doing the right thing.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/billflax/2011/07/09/the-true-meaning-of-separation-of-church-and-state/

http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danbury.html