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coffeesp00ns  ·  3273 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Too Many People in Jail? Abolish Bail.

You and I may not agree with them, but there are arguments to be made for isolation as a form of punishment. If you go through my comment history you'll see some of my opinions on Jail and, more importantly, what I think of how society treats ex-convicts.

As I implied, I don't agree with it, but that doesn't make it necessarily less valid. Many of these broad issues don't really have "Right" answers, they just have people on both sides who think they're right.





OftenBen  ·  3271 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    there are arguments to be made for isolation as a form of punishment.

I completely understand that bit. I definitely think that we need some form of confinement for those animals that happen to have human shape. But we have all kinds of punishments to use, and the only good argument I can see for putting someone in a cage is if they pose direct physical harm to others.

coffeesp00ns  ·  3271 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    the only good argument I can see

Me too. However we have to remember that there are other people who don't feel that way, and that their arguments are not necessarily less valid than ours.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't challenge those ideas and arguments, but we also need to be willing to be proven wrong too.

OftenBen  ·  3271 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    However we have to remember that there are other people who don't feel that way, and that their arguments are not necessarily less valid than ours.

    not necessarily less valid than ours.

I hope to someday achieve the zen-like tolerance you exemplify.

coffeesp00ns  ·  3271 days ago  ·  link  ·  
OftenBen  ·  3271 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Da-..... ng. Didn't know that was a thing. Sounds like a better religion than any I can think of except maybe Jainism.

ixnar  ·  3271 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Except these are people who have not been convicted. In other words, innocent. Unless they pose a risk to others of course

coffeesp00ns  ·  3271 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh of course, The backlog in New York courts is currently appalling. However, I was talking to OftenBen about the broader arguments of punishment, which they alluded to with their question.