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Paint By Numbers Love - a song I offer up to the originalmusicclub
Paint By Numbers Love - a song I offer up to the originalmusicclub  ·  40
thenewgreen  ·  3770 days ago
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T-Dog, ghostoffuffle, BLOB_CASTLE, coffeesp00ns, galen, jonaswildman, rezzeJ, mrjasonetaylor, bgood79, ecib, kleinbl00 and anyone else interested...

feel free to add to this song. It's just acoustic guitar, an electric guitar track vocals right now.

galen, you wanna add some drums? It's a pretty straight forward song

Have fun!

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BLOB_CASTLE  ·  3757 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Isolated bass track

galen thenewgreen kleinbl00

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kleinbl00  ·  3757 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Awesome!

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BLOB_CASTLE  ·  3756 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Jut let me know if you need anything else from me

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kleinbl00  ·  3749 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hook a brotha up and send me the pro tools session, yo. I'm almost ready to carve into this shit.

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thenewgreen  ·  3749 days ago  ·  link  ·  

With boss all afternoon. I'll try to get it over by the weekend.

Excited to hear what you hear.

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BLOB_CASTLE  ·  3769 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ayo here ya go

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thenewgreen  ·  3769 days ago  ·  link  ·  

THIS IS AWEOMSE! and I don't just say that because I have CAP LOCKS ON. I really dig all of it, but I'd love to hear the bass "lines" in and electric bass. I really dig the bowed parts.

Nice work BC!!!!

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BLOB_CASTLE  ·  3769 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thank you, I appreciate it. I really took my time to understand your rhythms. That's something I've been working on since leaving the jazz world. I've only recently become aware to how important hits are in non jazz music. In jazz, there'll be some songs that utilize them. But in almost every other genre, they're huge and very integral to the tune.

Could you explain a little more what you're looking for with electric? Do you want just electric, or electric and upright?

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galen  ·  3766 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's funny, I would characterize the importance of hits in pretty much the opposite way coming from the perspective of a drummer. The only time you really see hits is in jazz or big band stuff-- in fact a lot of times jazz (drum) charts are just those weird horizontal bars to denote the jazz ride pattern with hits on top (not even any particular orchestration). But with most other genres it's more important to just keep the groove going.

Also that track is fantastic.

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BLOB_CASTLE  ·  3764 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks for the kind words galen.

Hmm, very interesting. Yeah as a bassist, lead sheets rarely denote specific hits. Since graduating I've played with a few groups casually and hits are what make a song unique. That said, groove is always of the utmost importance, regardless of genre.

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galen  ·  3764 days ago  ·  link  ·  

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BLOB_CASTLE  ·  3763 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Myself and the master himself about two years ago:

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galen  ·  3763 days ago  ·  link  ·  

OH MY GOD

I AM SO JEALOUS RIGHT NOW

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BLOB_CASTLE  ·  3763 days ago  ·  link  ·  

He hung around and we had a half hour conversation.

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galen  ·  3763 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Holy shit

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BLOB_CASTLE  ·  3763 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah

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galen  ·  3351 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I forget, did klein ever get around to mixing this one? I'm looking for some recordings to send around to people I wanna play with…

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thenewgreen  ·  3351 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't think so.

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galen  ·  3351 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Okay. Much appreciated.

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galen  ·  3760 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Found it! Rough cut below.

kleinbl00

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kleinbl00  ·  3760 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You rawk. I need to dig into this shit.

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thenewgreen  ·  3758 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Have you had a chance to touch any of them yet? I'm curious what you can make of them. There are some good tracks in there, for sure. I'm excited to hear your interpretation.

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kleinbl00  ·  3758 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I spent 4 hours trying to carve a bass track loose of the first one using Spectralayers. It was super-ineffective.

It pretty much comes down to "if I can get individual tracks I can do something" and "if I can't I can throw the whole thing through Ozone and make it sound even more like what it sounds like."

On the road for the next week. Nothing happens 'til after the Superbowl.

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user-inactivated  ·  3758 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I spent 4 hours trying to carve a bass track loose of the first one using Spectralayers. It was super-ineffective.

Now I'm curious, why can't you use independent component analysis to separate a recording into separate tracks? A little googling finds a few papers doing just that, but I don't see any commercial software doing it.

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kleinbl00  ·  3758 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Because noise and overlap. Sound is largely characterized by harmonics and while you can break the fundamental loose, the harmonics are forever fucked.

Sony Spectralayers used to advertise that they could do this - it was their leg up over Izotope. however, once you break out of their carefully sandboxed demos, you discover that trying to get a guitar out of a song is a lot like trying to get piss out of a swimming pool.

Here's the white paper of Izotope, using their original RX algorithm. I have RX4 and it's orders of magnitude more refined.

In digging a little deeper, it appears that the primary use of ICA is facial recognition. To use an analogy, what we need musically is "facial reconstruction." Yes, I can carve up a sound file enough to go "yeah, that sounds like a bass." I cannot, however, do it cleanly or surgically enough to go "and it's so pretty I'm going to frame it and hang it over the mantlepiece." And I'm really f'ing good at noise reduction and the strategies thereof.

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kleinbl00  ·  3749 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Aaargh! Set the drums to downloadable pls!

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galen  ·  3749 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh my bad, I thought I already had. Done

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kleinbl00  ·  3749 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Fuck yeah

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galen  ·  3749 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Making good use of history class.

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thenewgreen  ·  3759 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I listened to both the song and the isolated drum track. Great work! You get a really nice sound from just that one mic, well done sir!

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galen  ·  3759 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks! Finally a vindication for all those hours spent tuning :)

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thenewgreen  ·  3759 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I wonder if the drums could be higher in the mix though, I could hardly hear them ;-)

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kleinbl00  ·  3757 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Quit kvetching I got this

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BLOB_CASTLE  ·  3763 days ago  ·  link  ·  

New and improved with electric bass

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thenewgreen  ·  3759 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hey, not sure if you saw that Galen posted drums. Check it out in this thread. Also, for this one, it may get be nice for kleinbl00 to have your isolated bass tracks. I'll even send him the original session and we can have at least one track on this Hubski album" that is properly mixed. Hell, it could be our "single" :-)

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BLOB_CASTLE  ·  3758 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sounds good. I'll get around to recording along with galen's track and uploading the solo bass track tonight

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galen  ·  3770 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'd love to, if I can find my mic (just the one "overhead" - pretty lo-fi setup). It's been missing for about a month now.

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thenewgreen  ·  3763 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Tell your mom to go buy you a nice new condenser mic... or a used one. Tell her it's for school.

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galen  ·  3762 days ago  ·  link  ·  

lol

I'm saving up for one already, and an interface.

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kleinbl00  ·  3770 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Extra special bonus points if you also upload your drums all by themself.

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