T-Dog, ghostoffuffle, BLOB_CASTLE, coffeesp00ns, galen, jonaswildman, rezzeJ, mrjasonetaylor, bgood79, ecib, kleinbl00 and anyone else interested...
feel free to add to this song. It's just acoustic guitar, an electric guitar track vocals right now.
galen, you wanna add some drums? It's a pretty straight forward song
Have fun!
With boss all afternoon. I'll try to get it over by the weekend.
Excited to hear what you hear.
THIS IS AWEOMSE! and I don't just say that because I have CAP LOCKS ON. I really dig all of it, but I'd love to hear the bass "lines" in and electric bass. I really dig the bowed parts.
Nice work BC!!!!
Thank you, I appreciate it. I really took my time to understand your rhythms. That's something I've been working on since leaving the jazz world. I've only recently become aware to how important hits are in non jazz music. In jazz, there'll be some songs that utilize them. But in almost every other genre, they're huge and very integral to the tune.
Could you explain a little more what you're looking for with electric? Do you want just electric, or electric and upright?
That's funny, I would characterize the importance of hits in pretty much the opposite way coming from the perspective of a drummer. The only time you really see hits is in jazz or big band stuff-- in fact a lot of times jazz (drum) charts are just those weird horizontal bars to denote the jazz ride pattern with hits on top (not even any particular orchestration). But with most other genres it's more important to just keep the groove going.
Also that track is fantastic.
Thanks for the kind words galen.
Hmm, very interesting. Yeah as a bassist, lead sheets rarely denote specific hits. Since graduating I've played with a few groups casually and hits are what make a song unique. That said, groove is always of the utmost importance, regardless of genre.
Myself and the master himself about two years ago:
Have you had a chance to touch any of them yet? I'm curious what you can make of them. There are some good tracks in there, for sure. I'm excited to hear your interpretation.
I spent 4 hours trying to carve a bass track loose of the first one using Spectralayers. It was super-ineffective.
It pretty much comes down to "if I can get individual tracks I can do something" and "if I can't I can throw the whole thing through Ozone and make it sound even more like what it sounds like."
On the road for the next week. Nothing happens 'til after the Superbowl.
- I spent 4 hours trying to carve a bass track loose of the first one using Spectralayers. It was super-ineffective.
Now I'm curious, why can't you use independent component analysis to separate a recording into separate tracks? A little googling finds a few papers doing just that, but I don't see any commercial software doing it.
Because noise and overlap. Sound is largely characterized by harmonics and while you can break the fundamental loose, the harmonics are forever fucked.
Sony Spectralayers used to advertise that they could do this - it was their leg up over Izotope. however, once you break out of their carefully sandboxed demos, you discover that trying to get a guitar out of a song is a lot like trying to get piss out of a swimming pool.
Here's the white paper of Izotope, using their original RX algorithm. I have RX4 and it's orders of magnitude more refined.
In digging a little deeper, it appears that the primary use of ICA is facial recognition. To use an analogy, what we need musically is "facial reconstruction." Yes, I can carve up a sound file enough to go "yeah, that sounds like a bass." I cannot, however, do it cleanly or surgically enough to go "and it's so pretty I'm going to frame it and hang it over the mantlepiece." And I'm really f'ing good at noise reduction and the strategies thereof.
I listened to both the song and the isolated drum track. Great work! You get a really nice sound from just that one mic, well done sir!
Hey, not sure if you saw that Galen posted drums. Check it out in this thread. Also, for this one, it may get be nice for kleinbl00 to have your isolated bass tracks. I'll even send him the original session and we can have at least one track on this Hubski album" that is properly mixed. Hell, it could be our "single" :-)
Sounds good. I'll get around to recording along with galen's track and uploading the solo bass track tonight