You keep missing this: I'm all about letting new users do whatever they want on the site. I'm not suggesting their activity should be hidden from anyone but me. I'm not even suggesting they'd stay hidden permanently - I'm saying that global becomes useless for anyone but Reddit refugees when the Reddit refugees show up, and that I would like to continue to be able to use global until they settle down without impacting their experience one iota. What you're suggesting is that a popularity contest is the way to handle it. It would work like this: USER 1: DAE Reddit? USER 2: LOLZ Suddenly, User 1 and User 2 are both "circled" because their circlejerk was successful. They both pop into my feed. Meanwhile, if I have someone ignored, I still see their comments. They're just struck out. If they have anything useful to say I'll see it. If instead they're responding with memes (been there, done that), I can rest assured that they'll either be (a) gone (b) mature before I really have to interact with them.
The thing is, you assume everyone who is new here has nothing worthwhile to say. New users don't only come from reddit when reddit behaves in a way its users don't like. They might stumble upon hubski another way.
And global has been far from useless. I have found many thing that are not new user or reddit related there. It's not an inherently bad idea, but it has its problems.. And having a feature that make new users invisible to old ones will have an effect on the new users experience. They won't get to interact with those who have ignored all new users - even if they have something worthwhile to say.
No, I assume that I don't want to hear them until they've settled in. You (and everyone else new) keeps assuming that you'll be globally silenced, rather than selectively ignored. You do understand the difference, correct? This is a largely false statement, user-for-nineteen-hours. New users come almost entirely from Reddit. They always have. And they always come when Redditors are mad. Thus, the influx of mad Redditors. That happened exactly once. We gained about 50 people. Usually, however, that's all there is. Besides, what do you care what I ignore? I'm not forcing my tastes on you in any way, shape or form. You have enumerated none. How? Try this: 1) Ignore me. 2) Click on a few posts. 3) Find me. 4) Interact with me. 5) Report back for science as to how difficult it actually is to interact with someone ignored.The thing is, you assume everyone who is new here has nothing worthwhile to say.
New users don't only come from reddit when reddit behaves in a way its users don't like.
They might stumble upon hubski another way.
And global has been far from useless. I have found many thing that are not new user or reddit related there.
It's not an inherently bad idea, but it has its problems.
And having a feature that make new users invisible to old ones will have an effect on the new users experience.
They won't get to interact with those who have ignored all new users - even if they have something worthwhile to say.
I understand the difference and I'm trying to make some points about how it could affect new users and that while this might be good it might also have some bad side effects.The reason that I care what you ignore is that you want a new site feature for you ignoring and a new way of ignoring. I am completely fine with you ignoring me as a user, I'm completely fine with you ignoring all new users, That's your choice. And I think it is unusual that you think it very insulting to refer someone as OP but seem it fine to delegate someone to their hours as a member. And note that my statement was that people don't only come from reddit. The fact that most do does not invalidate that. And no matter how hard you argue that it won't impact new users experience it will. The simple fact that such an option to ignore all new users for a week exist sends a message. It tells the new users that people don't want to deal with them and it might lead to people not staying. And I've said what I think the faults are. It sends a non-welcoming message, it limits the hubski community that new users are exposed to which makes integration for new users harder an it fosters a culture in which time on the site is the prime measure of value to the community. And the fault with your experiment is that I would be searching to interact with you while you would be actively avoiding new users. that is not the same thing.
I asked you to do a very specific thing for a very specific reason. I did this in order to broaden your base of experience about the subject you are committed to arguing because we all benefit if you actually know what you're talking about. The fact that you have chosen not to do this pretty much makes my point: you don't know what you're talking about and you don't want to. That's likely to change in a week or so. Once you've put down the flag of combat and walked around getting to know the place, you may gain an understanding of what "ignore" actually accomplishes. You might understand why, exactly, referring to someone as "OP" is so offensive - this is a place of names, of relationships, of personalities, and of connections. By calling someone "OP" you are saying "that person up there whose name I can read but won't repeat because my time is too important and they don't deserve the respect." Likewise, I asked you to do a very specific thing. You have not. You seem to be of the opinion that if you repeat your discredited arguments they will somehow gain weight. They won't. So. Evidence indicates that you are a new user I wish to mute. You may have something to say in a week, but in the meantime you're annoying me and we're coming to blows. So I'm going to ignore you. The downside of doing it manually is I have to remember to undo it in a week's time... ...because you won't be able to remind me.