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kleinbl00  ·  3630 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: On Ending my 2 Year Long Affair

You know, if I had:

A) stumbled on a community I liked, only to piss it off after a week and discover that every move I made only dug the hole deeper...

B) had an utter inability to apologize and complete and total disbelief that forgiveness was even available...

...I might be tempted to self-immolate.

I might be tempted to create a new account. Maybe I'd populate it with a persona 180 degrees away from what I'd assembled to date. Perhaps make it say something vulnerable. And then, if I was really committed, I'd have my old account say something really nasty to my new account.

It'd be Identity Play 101. It'd be a time-honored tradition:

    The network’s effects on today’s young people are paradoxical. Networking makes it easier to play with identity (for example, by experimenting with an avatar that is interestingly different from you) but harder to leave the past behind, because the Internet is forever. The network facilitates separation (a cell phone allows children greater freedoms) but also inhibits it (a parent is always on tap). Teenagers turn away from the “real-time” demands of the telephone and disappear into role-playing games they describe as “communities” and “worlds.”

By having my old, hated identity slag my new one, I'd create affinity for my new identity. By ignoring my old identity with my new identity and being friendly with my new identity to everyone, I'd wed myself further. And with any luck, I'd be able to continue within the community without the baggage of pissing everyone off for a solid week.

I might run into problems though. For one thing, I'd want to be careful to "age" my new account. It might look suspicious to create my affinity-building post within minutes of creating the account. I might also want to take care with the charade as well. Perhaps build a skirmish or two, give it some time, and then have my old account shit down the neck of my new account. After all, if the "mea culpa" and the "up yours" were created less than five minutes apart people might be suspicious.

The real drag is that initial identities are generally truer to the self than subsequent ones. They fit better. They're less maintenance. And if I'd poured my heart and soul into my initial identity, I might find that I regret my decision to burn it at the stake in a proxy shaming ritual. Especially if, after weeks of introspection, I discovered that forgiveness really was available. Especially if, after weeks of participation, I discovered the site I liked valued identity over persona.

This is all hypothetical, mind you. Call it a thought experiment based on experience and anecdotal evidence. A mental walk in the woods, if you will, to outline the borders of an imaginary landscape. I've never experienced (A) and have never known the crippling social malady of (B).

The problem with this discussion is whoever clandestino is, this debut will forever cloud her experience. Honestly, her discussion was better suited to a throwaway anyway. Hypothetically speaking, it'd probably be better for her to walk away from this particular account no matter what.

Hypothetically speaking.



user-inactivated  ·  3630 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This is some really weird cointelpro shit and it's not okay to say it in the open like you just did.

The damage incurred by accusing a legit clandestino is much greater than any benefit that could be obtained by calling out absurd machinations of that sort. Your comment is the kind of thing that should be PMed to teamramonycajal, if it's said at all, to avoid collateral damage or unintended consequences. Pinging clandestino is just outright cruel.

The only thing gained by saying this in public is masturbatory pleasure and maybe the petty thrill of a badge and a few circledots. Anyone really concerned with this already knows the possibility.

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kleinbl00  ·  3630 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This is, chapter and verse, the experience I've had twice elsewhere. As to "damage" I'm not sure what damage that would be. As to consequences, I'm not sure what you're worried about. We are, after all, talking about someone who joined (not stopped lurking, joined) Hubski for the specific purpose of confessing an affair. And while it's possible that someone who is "devastated" would choose to introduce herself to a new community in this way, you have to admit the odds are against it.

As far as public v. private, I'd have me ignored, wouldn't you?

(don't you?)

That said, go ahead and be mad. Be self-righteous. And be offensive about it. I'd expect nothing less.

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user-inactivated  ·  3630 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I agree with minimum_wage in a "who gives a fuck about all of this, you guys are wasting your hubski time on dumb bullshit" sort of way, but this:

    As far as public v. private, I'd have me ignored, wouldn't you?

    (don't you?)

was kind of funny.

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