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neptath  ·  4168 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Obama to seek Congressional vote on military action in Syria.

After pledging so strongly to take action and then failing to receive British support, I think this is the President's way of backing off without looking like it. If the "strongest ally" is polling at 64% against, your prospects don't exactly look good...

The other thing to consider is the precedent he's setting. Trying to move away from the Bush-era unauthorized military strikes his previous policy of using unauthorized force, such as the use of drone strikes abroad and military intervention in Libya is certainly commendable, but it's also a CYA. If Congress gives him the green light and five years down the road we're still involved, he and the Dems might be able to get away with "But Congress said it was okay!" For the wallet's sake, hopefully that's not the case, but you can never be too sure. Anyway, it's certainly adhering more to the spirit of the Constitutional powers, i.e. no war without Congressional approval, but whether or not that was his true and sole intent is in doubt.





geneusutwerk  ·  4167 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'd like to remind you that Congress did approve the Iraq invasion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

neptath  ·  4167 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's true, I'd completely forgotten that. While it's still not officially "declaring war" as defined by the Constitution, it does kind of change the current President's position. Thanks for pointing that out, I'm editing my original comment.

thenewgreen  ·  4168 days ago  ·  link  ·  

From where I sit it seems the motivation to go to congress is entirely a CYA move. This president acts unilaterally when it suits him. cliffelam what are your thoughts?

neptath  ·  4167 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Either a CYA or a way to (semi-)gracefully back out of his earlier threats is how I view it. Regardless of his covert intentions, the precedent he sets is still significant, I think.

user-inactivated  ·  4168 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I shudder to read cliffelam's thoughts on this, but they will be enlightening.

EDIT: goddamn I was right.