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symmetry  ·  4159 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Kids can't use computers... and this is why it should worry you

This was frustrating to read.





pseydtonne  ·  4156 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I agree, for a potentially different reason. The author has not come up with a clear list of what a human needs to know to be computer-literate. Instead he's explaining that his generation got to grow up with the problem-solving necessary, so these kids need to get off his lawn.

He has very valid points. From the opening example: his customer looked down on him, did not present her full situation, and acted like her problems are everyone else's problem.

However as kleinbl00 put it above, he is expecting everyone to be a desktop administrator... and possibly psychic. Does she know the school has a web proxy? No. Does she need to know this? Yes. Would it not make his side-job easier if he wrote up a set of Mac and Windows instructions for visitors and teachers to connect, and what problems to expect? Yes.

Now comes the kicker: he should know that last part already. He wrote this entire lament, when he could have used the same amount of time to write a how-to. He gets some reward from dealing with frustrating people or he would have solved the problem. Part of the computer-literate nature that he vaunts is never solving the same problem twice: solve it once, document that, refine the doc based on feedback, improve the process.

He talks all this bravado about being able to cobble a computer from beach sand and meat sweats. It sounds just like an emotionally abusive parent saying that no one appreciates the work that went into making dinner. Teach the kids how to make dinner and that problem is gone.

Microprocessors with impressive infrastructure are everywhere, but they aren't desktop computers. The computer interfaces vaporize because they can emulate the analog actions they replace. A car has a lots of chips, but it also has giant buttons on the floor that you control with your feet. We teach driving to youngsters. They can't wait to drive: I remember counting the months until I could take my written test at 16, starting with my 13th birthday.

Even when acknowledges the above, and even with the hint of proposing an ontogenic network for students (Linux boxes, routers they can poke, etc), he needs to stop being a whinger. This article should have been "Why I wrote a proxy config doc with cartoon characters".

symmetry  ·  4156 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ideally, yes, he should just write a how-to instead of this meta complaining. But I have a feeling that the people he refers to wouldn't have any interest in learning for themselves while they have a tech guy who can just do it for them. I think what he is really getting at is not so much blaming them for not knowing things as it is blaming them for not even wanting or caring to.

SeventhProphet  ·  4159 days ago  ·  link  ·  

How so?

symmetry  ·  4159 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The majority of the examples provided by the author just seemed to show a general lack of critical thinking from the user. I definitely have a biased view on the matter, though. I wonder if auto-maintenance workers often feel the same way about their customers.

kleinbl00  ·  4158 days ago  ·  link  ·  
symmetry  ·  4157 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That website is great. I especially like the seasonal tire air.

SeventhProphet  ·  4159 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I agree with you on that, i just wasn't sure if you were criticizing the people in the examples as you are, or if the writing style of the post itself was rubbing you the wrong way.