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ButterflyEffect  ·  4182 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Confessions of an College Application Reader

"It's an objective system because I get to decide who gets what ranking and what criteria we are ranking these applicants on". That's what I got out of the system they have set up and how lead readers function. I realize that we're in a globalized and interconnected world, but why is there such an emphasis on "leadership"? It's not even something you can get a good sense of from reading an application. Secondly, not everybody needs to be a leader. It's the same thing with everybody having to be STEM major or being useless to society. Everybody needs a cook or a plumber just as bad as an Engineer. Same goes for a leader.





usualgerman  ·  5 days ago  ·  link  ·  

In theory sure. But an essay by nature gives all kinds of information that they’re likely using as proxies for leadership, and most of them are indicative of race, religion, social class, and political affiliation. They want people who volunteer, but be honest, if one kid volunteers at a Pro-Life organization and a second in a soup kitchen and a third at a Pro-Palestinian group, who gets that one spot even if all three show “leadership?” Does it sound better if the things they were doing happen in America, near their home, or in Kenya? Keep in mind that only people likely to be able to afford to give gifts to the college post graduation are likely to be able to afford sinecures in NGOs doing interesting work in a far away country.

There isn’t really a way around this. The nature of an essay is that it cannot help but give out information that has nothing to do with “leadership”.

ButterflyEffect  ·  3 days ago  ·  link  ·  

wow, how the heck did you come across this very old post?? i mean, going back to 2013-ish!

my views certainly have developed since then, reading back on it…

cliffelam  ·  4182 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Agree with you on leadership.

The other stuff is transparently part of the social agenda to promote flavor-of-the-day diversity over achievement. If I were Jewish or Asian my head would explode during the college admissions process, I'm sure.

-XC

glitchinthematrix  ·  4182 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think I read somewhere that one of the most important jobs for our society to run is of that in sanitation, a statement I can mostly agree with. Imagine if no one picked up your trash whilst living in NY? Shit would get hectic yo.