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user-inactivated  ·  4184 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: I live in a Surveillance State

great. so now that we've established that, are you going to do anything about it?





cgod  ·  4183 days ago  ·  link  ·  

What do you think we can do? I'm glad that Ron Wyden is one of my Senators and that Earl Blumenauer is my Rep (he has consistently voted against expansion of the surveillance state). I don't know what my other Senators stance is on the surveillance state is, but I know I will vote for anyone who is more interested in civil liberties than safety.

If I had known that my vote for a third party candidate would have given Mitt the election I still wouldn't have voted for Obama. This administration is nothing but vulgar. I knew then that it has no respect for the constitution or the citizenry, it only wants to tighten its grip on power. When will people vote on constitutional values, the right to be secure in your effects and person against unreasonable search and seizure, to value their privacy? As much as I think Rand Paul is a nitwit I'd probably vote for him at this point. We aren't going to get revolution at the point of a gun but I hope it's still possible that we might get it at the voting booth.

ecib  ·  4183 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    As much as I think Rand Paul is a nitwit I'd probably vote for him at this point.

You have NO IDEA how much it pains me that I am beginning to agree with this. I would not want to live in a country that enacted all he argues for at all but he's one of the only horses in town when it comes to our privacy, which has been absolutely demolished. I mean, it's already gone. We only have privacy in the sense that nobody cares enough to glance at us at this particular moment. They're fine with this, because they have recorded all of our previous moments.

cgod  ·  4183 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yo, I think I have a pretty good idea how painful it is. I think the first time I realized that I could vote for Rand Paul I started hysterically laughing in a way that bordered on tears. I think we are fucked when I would chose someone like him to best represent my interest.

ecib  ·  4182 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I think we are fucked when I would chose someone like him to best represent my interest.

I think this pretty much sums it up.

user-inactivated  ·  2971 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I agree with about 11% of the words out of Rand Paul's mouth. Yet, I am voting for him. I wish i could vote for Wyden.

mk  ·  4182 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I write my representatives from time to time, and I will here. Perhaps #tincan could be considered "something". I will also express my views with as many people as possible, as above. Of course, my voting will be affected by this.

Do you have any suggestions?

user-inactivated  ·  4181 days ago  ·  link  ·  

my approach remains the same. encryption to protect us, basic income to empower us, syndicalism to liberate us.

mk  ·  4181 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Perhaps Hubski and Tin-Can can be considered part of syndicalism?