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mk  ·  4574 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Punks stop moshing. Ravers stop raving. Goths just get older.
I've crossed through a number of scenes in my days, never latching on to one whole-heartedly. I never liked to embrace something like that fully. However, I can say this: Hands-down, no scene was as friendly and well-adjusted as the goth scene. Ironically, the most mean-spirited, selfish people I encountered as part of a subculture were hippies. I found that they steal things from each other and get in fights a lot.




kleinbl00  ·  4574 days ago  ·  link  ·  
;-)

The goths were my tribe. Up in Seattle goths could really take it seriously; I mean, 11 months out of the year you can wear all black and suffer not in the slightest. What was interesting was how "tribal" it was - the Vogue goths didn't much talk to the Fenix goths didn't much talk to the Catwalk goths didn't much talk to the MachineWerks goths. I mixed at the Fenix and mixed at the Catwalk and was friends with DJs at the Vogue and MachineWorks. And we'd have massive Goth/industrial bands (Lords of Acid, Die Krupps, Laibach, Front 242) at the Fenix and we'd staff so light on the security, particularly compared to the cover band nights. I asked one of the security guys about it once. He scoffed. "These guys? They're too busy trying to out-cool each other to get in a fight."

It's been 15 years and I'm still in touch with a lot of those folx.

mk  ·  4574 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Ha. For me it was Leeland City Club and the Labyrinth in Detroit, and Man Ray in Cambridge MA. Oddly, the DJ at Man Ray used to DJ at City Club. We also went to a lot of the early techno parties in Detroit in the 90's. -Fun, but the goth kids were cooler.

I've never been to any of the Seattle clubs you mentioned. The only club I've been to in Seattle was called the Crocodile, I think. It was on a road trip. I remember that Peter Buck of REM was at the bar.

We will drop in City Club once in a blue moon, but it's been a couple of years since my last trip.

kleinbl00  ·  4574 days ago  ·  link  ·  
That's because Peter Buck of REM owns The Crocodile.
mk  ·  4574 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Well, there you go. :)