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GammaScattering  ·  4328 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Will the Real Lance Armstrong Please Stand Up?

How do you know that the advancements we have made are not a form of evolution? Take some microbe for example; lets say that some archaeon is doing well by itself or within its community when all the sudden it picks up the ability to ferment lactose (maybe through horizontal gene transfer (spreading of ideas...)). Should it not use its new found mechanisms for survival? The tools that humanity acquires to sustain itself should be used because it is just another gift of our intellect/ability to adapt to our environment





BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4328 days ago  ·  link  ·  

How would it ever naturally just pick up that ability all of a sudden. Mutations like that don't occur spontaneously and in the same manner I don't believe we were meant to change fundamental processes in ourselves so drastically except through evolution over time.

GammaScattering  ·  4327 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Question: Are you a creationist? I don't want to step on your beliefs so please let me know.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4327 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I believe that the big bang and evolution and everything of that nature was created by God, yes.

symmetry  ·  4328 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Mutations like that actually do occur spontaneously. What difference does it make if the change is conscious or not? We should be able to make better and more efficient changes consciously.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4327 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Who's to say though that we can judge what the best and most efficient change is?

symmetry  ·  4327 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Who's to say that we can judge what our, or anything else's, purpose is?

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4326 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Exactly. So why should we conclude we are they judges and mess with how we'd naturally progress?

symmetry  ·  4326 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yea, I guess what you're saying really relies on the belief that some sort of judge and ultimate purpose actually exists, and since I don't have that belief we will always disagree.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4325 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I do believe there is an actual purpose. Agree to disagree?

symmetry  ·  4325 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Of course.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4325 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The personalities of Hubskinites never ceases to amaze me.