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Saydrah  ·  4336 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Upside Of Being An Introvert (And Why Extroverts Are Overrated)

I don't see why it's necessary to categorize people into introvert/extrovert. (Then again, I don't agree with binaries in gender or in politics, either.)

I have traits of both, and I think most people do. If I describe myself to someone who is sold on the "upsides of being an introvert" thing, they'll use the fact that I'm sometimes awkward one-on-one but totally comfortable working a room or speaking to a crowd to tell me I'm an introvert. Anyone else will use the same thing to tell me I'm an extrovert. As far as I can figure, I'm a person who is sometimes awkward one-on-one but likes public speaking and networking.





NotPhil  ·  4336 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I don't see why it's necessary to categorize people into introvert/extrovert. (Then again, I don't agree with binaries in gender or in politics, either.)

The author didn't see the need to speak about binary categories either. He said he was speaking about a spectrum that is described by two sets of traits:

    Introversion and extroversion aren't fixed categories -- there's a personality spectrum, and many, known as ambiverts, fall in the gap between the two traits -- but they are vital to our personality.
dublinben  ·  4336 days ago  ·  link  ·  

"Ambivert" is such a terrible term that I'm discouraged to even repeat it. If most people tend to fall in the middle of a spectrum (according to a normal distribution) why is all the attention on the extreme cases of exclusive introversion and extroversion?

NotPhil  ·  4336 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    If most people tend to fall in the middle of a spectrum (according to a normal distribution) why is all the attention on the extreme cases of exclusive introversion and extroversion?

He didn't say most; he said many. He also said introversion is common:

    By some estimates, 30% of all people fall on the introvert end of the temperament spectrum

One of the researchers he spoke to, Susan Cain, puts the estimate closer to 50%. Of course, this depends on when you think someone is mostly introverted and when you think someone is both significantly introverted and significantly extroverted (and when you think someone is mostly extroverted, but the article doesn't address that).

The reason he says he wants to pay attention to introversion is because its complementary trait, extroversion, is:

    the unstated norm, and against that norm introverts stand out as seemingly problematic.
dublinben  ·  4336 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Perhaps we should be using this effort to increase awareness of the moderate position between the two extremes, not elevating introverts at the expense of extroverts. As a spectrum, it's unlikely that most people lie at the far extremes. Continuing the discussion of introverts vs. extroverts just perpetuates this false dichotomy.

Saydrah  ·  4336 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Point taken -- I guess the author had to use the terms people know to get their attention, but I don't like the categorization at all. You can't even add "bi" to it if you're both, like me. Biverted? That sounds like a bisexual pervert.

Hein  ·  4335 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Nothing wrong with being a bisexual pervert. Intro- or extraversion to me is also chemical. I consider myself to be an introvert until after a couple of drinks, after which I become extremely extrovert.

dublinben  ·  4336 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I used to think I was an introvert, but it's such an artificial category that it doesn't adequately describe me at all. I'm quite confident in conversations and crowds, but I'm not an Alpha-type sociopath either.