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UserSince1996  ·  4576 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Is everyone here a reffugee from reddit?
Yep I'm the same way; I'll never leave Reddit because of the small subreddits which interest me, for example r/worldmusic . If Hubski gets big enough to have an active #worldmusic tag, well then I guess I'll check both every day!

Right now this feels more like r/truereddit than r/truereddit , which has slipped enormously. I think through the pick-and-choose fashion of the hubs, we'll have the choice to keep it that way. If someone starts submitting garbage, just unfollow them.





kleinbl00  ·  4576 days ago  ·  link  ·  
pssst -

The way to get an active #worldmusic tag is by submitting quality stuff with a #worldmusic tag...

UserSince1996  ·  4576 days ago  ·  link  ·  
You're right... there's that problem on some social media sites where you're worried about bombarding people with too many links. I see the centrepiece of this site as long-form journalism and academic articles, and apart from an initial burst of activity I've tried to ease it up with the YouTube links... really no reason to, I guess. If people want that kind of stuff, they'll follow. If not, they won't.
kleinbl00  ·  4575 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Here's my thinking.

Sites such as this exist to provide a place for people to share and discuss content. Therefore, from the "people" side of things, you should share and discuss that which interests you. If you have tastes complementary to others, they will partake in your sharing and discussion. From the "site" side of things, the goal is to make this sharing and discussion as pleasant and efficient as possible - the more transparency, the better.

Reddit is falling because the transparency went away. Reddit is in no way about sharing and discussing any longer; it's about points. Further, since positive and negative points are possible, it's become a battle arena. Its the social network equivalent of Eve Online.

Hubski has an opportunity to differentiate itself from that model by keeping the focus on the people and the facilitation and downplaying the overhead. But this is alpha-test stuff, and as such, I'm approaching it as an alpha tester.

The way I used to use Reddit was to go through my RSS feeds and submit anything I found interesting, or I thought others would find interesting. Then, as Reddit grew, I found myself searching for anything on my RSS feeds on Reddit, because someone else had probably already submitted it. For the past year, I've been ignoring my RSS feeds because while the stuff that interests me hasn't been submitted most of the time, it's also been brutally downvoted by a bunch of people with time on their hands and the attention span of gnats.

So the way I'm using Hubski is the way I used to use Reddit - find stuff that's interesting in my RSS feeds and post it.

Which right now means that a whole bunch of people who are "following" me are going to get a firehose of #architecture and #business on weekday mornings. My understanding is that if they don't click the dot, they don't see it for long... but for a while, they get a heapin' helpin' of stuff that may not interest them. In the grand scheme of things, no big deal. Site-side, though, it's a potential bug. So I keep doing what I'm doing because users will never conform to a flawed site architecture (Reddit's architecture favors trolls, and as soon as there wasn't the staff to hand-pick and weed through the trolls, they took over), the site can conform to the users. This is the nature of organic design.

Perhaps what we need is a "-#" - for example, you could "#" kleinbl00 and "-#" architecture. Or "#" UserSince1996 and "-#" worldmusic. Maybe something like:

#"kleinbl00 -architecture"

#"Usersince1996 -worldmusic"

Maybe I submit that to #bugski for thought purposes.

mk  ·  4575 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Damn that Usersince1996 and his worldmusic! :)

That's an interesting idea kleinbl00. It's a layer of complexity, so I will be very cautious about my decision to implement it, but the idea itself (and the expressed need) is good food for thought.

At the same time, we might just find that those that follow you do appreciate your posting style, and those that don't, won't. Or, alternatively, someone like myself could serve as a #"kleinbl00 -architecture filter. I might follow you and share a good number of your posts, but not those that concern architecture.

At any rate, I'm going to keep this in mind as we see how things play out. It might be a good strategy to address issues that arise as you mentioned.

kleinbl00  ·  4575 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I applaud anyone sensible enough to resist rolling out solutions to problems that don't exist yet.
atmo  ·  4575 days ago  ·  link  ·  
An interesting suggestion, and something I fancy plenty of my twitter followers would appreciate. I am an Android blogger, but also happen to tweet a lot about eSports which I'm sure is of no interest to quite a few people. However, this is more feasible on hubski because of the mandatory post tagging.
learningwebs  ·  4575 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Recent reddit refugee here, and liking it so far.

The part of what kleinbl00 says that resonates is this: I'm probably not going to be interested in following too many people, because I already have a long list of them that I "follow" elsewhere (i.e., Glenn Greenwald, Amy Goodman, etc.)

Reddit's double-edged greatness/weakness is its subject-oriented approach. And I think if hubski grows into quality, it will be because it finds a creative way to go that direction without ghettoization.

Tagging is a good start. I don't think it'll scale well on its own, though. I'll keep thinking on it and watching what happens, and if I come up with anything more intelligent to say, I'll keep you posted. ; )

Edit: Not OP, but kleinbl00

user-inactivated  ·  4572 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Am I actually agreeing with you? I'll leave the trolling to reddit. Truce?
kleinbl00  ·  4571 days ago  ·  link  ·  
A gentle reminder - my only problem with your posse - I have no problem with you - was that you guys don't really know when to say when. Once you had been adequately dissuaded from attacking Youngluck (subjective, and wholly my point of view) I lost interest in persecuting you.

So from my perspective, I've had a "truce" for months now. If you want to make it two-sided, so much the better.

user-inactivated  ·  4570 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Done. I don't even remember attacking "Youngluck". I was probably drunk. We have all moved here as well. We still stay on reddit but we have enough taste to realize that this site is pure and not a retarded meme generator full of high school kids. I come here to read and learn. I go to reddit basically to fuck with people. I was on 4chan way before reddit. Then 7chan and 888chan.

I guess I'm trying to say I will leave this site alone and keep the nonsense to reddit and other places.