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user-inactivated  ·  742 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Paul Graham: Heresy

Yeah, that's obviously rediculous. Someone on the internet wanted a quick hit of moral supremacy and made some poor PR person's life worse for a day.

I guess that's pretty emblematic of my feelings on "cancel culture" tho - people on the internet are being annoying but really it's mostly an internet problem. The school wanted good PR, they were needlessly attacked, they apologized anyways because the whole point was to get PR, life moves on.

The only people really affected are entertainers where people's perception of them is what they're selling. I personally have a hard time enjoying something like standup if it's from a person who's views I hate.

Meanwhile in my state of Florida, they just passed a bill allowing teachers to be individually sued for mentioning anything about gender, but none of the "cancel culture" types like PG seem to be nearly as upset.

I guess it makes some amount of sense - people posting online a lot disproportionally care about what people online think. But really, 90% of the time a Twitter mob just makes it unpleasant to use Twitter. Which isn't great, but nowhere near the death of society. And the cancel culture articles almost always paint this as an exclusively left wing problem which is just not true at all.

Left wing ppl have the Twitter numbers and can be annoying, whereas right wing cancel culture people are writing their hereseys into Law





mk  ·  742 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah, Graham definitely makes the mistake of thinking it's happening more on the left than the right. That's probably because relative to where he sits, the left has changed, whereas the right has not. The truth is that they have become more similar.

Over the course of my life, the US right has always been guilty of purity tests and the hypocrisy that comes with it. It's relatively new for the left. The left used to be a place where progressivism was understood the compass, but irreverence for cultural mores kept people honest and sufferable.

kleinbl00  ·  742 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Both the left and the right have abandoned their economic and geopolitical underpinnings due to the expense of running for office. The end result is that the left is made up of rich people who represent wealthy young white people while the right is made up of rich people who represent wealthy old white people. The left must throw sops to poor non-white people in order to be elected while the right must throw sops to poor white people in order to be elected.

The thing that turns my stomach is people like Paul Graham think they're suffering under a system created and perpetuated exclusively for his benefit.

mk  ·  742 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    The thing that turns my stomach is people like Paul Graham think they're suffering under a system created and perpetuated exclusively for his benefit.

I suspect that he's on the spectrum. He has a very consistent Data-like blindspot in his modeling of other people. It's like he sees everyone as Paul Graham.

kleinbl00  ·  742 days ago  ·  link  ·  
mk  ·  742 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No. I really doubt it. Many people have expressed to me just how generous, friendly, and thoughtful he is. I do think he is benevolent but limited in that regard.

kleinbl00  ·  742 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Rush Limbaugh was well-known for being generous, friendly, and thoughtful to the people he interacted with. Empathy is the measure of how we regard people we'll never meet.