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comment by kleinbl00
kleinbl00  ·  844 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: A Generation of American Men Give Up on College

You put a lot of effort into the refutation of something. I read the article when it first came out and opted not to share it in the general spirit of your objections: "fuckin' waaah" and "think of the children" among others.

But there is a discussion worth having: the article tacitly acknowledges four or five different ways that there's a thumb on the scale for men, AND YET they're opting out. That opt-out has accelerated substantially since 2016, which you're not going to capture when looking at data that ends in 2015. As you might imagine, this sort of thing is, erm, controversial so here's Brookings:

And here's AEI:

They're both different slices across different demographic reports to demonstrate different assessments of a falling sky. "College is hard" sure. "Men run the country" sure. "Success is sheer tenacity" sure. But there are structural problems at play that have been at play for over a decade: men and women achieve different assessments of the economics of higher education.

Warning klaxons have been blaring about college for twenty years. For whatever reason, men are opting out faster than women. No, it's not a new trend but yes, it's an accelerating trend. No, there's no fairness in the world but yes, men are opting out faster nonetheless. No, you don't need to be sympathetic to Brosif the Basement Influencer but yes, the fact that his earning potential has been cut in half will impact society.

As you discuss, we live in a male-dominated society. And as you discuss, that's probably not for the best. But as you don't discuss, there's a fuckton of lads out there who think they should rule the world and now? Definitely never will.

You can throw GamerGate, Incels, Trump and god knows what else into that hole.

Your fundamental argument seems to be that men deserve to underachieve. I'm not going to make a counterargument. I don't think the WSJ would, either. The point I got from the article is that there's about to be a big goddamn societal shift, and it has been my experience that the demographic left behind rarely takes it lying down.