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kleinbl00  ·  82 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Aluminum tariffs are going to raise the price of some domestic craft beer

Your linked article assumes that the aluminum is already recycled. It doesn't say anything about the recycling process. My argument was:

    And the argument that aluminum recycles better than glass is pure bullshit.

Your counterargument was "it depends" and then you linked to an article that says, effectively, glass isn't NECESSARILY the winner. The "if" you're attributing to me isn't mine, it's the article's: my position (glass is better than aluminum) is challenged theoretically by your article, but practically let stand. It also says

    The average beer can contains 40 percent recycled aluminum, while American beer bottles are typically composed of 20 percent to 30 percent recycled glass

while newer sources call those statistics into question. So... that "if" you're trying to hang on me? The "if" I used - "if they were refillable" - is above an assortment of growlers, the hipster refillable beer container of choice around here. Meanwhile,

    If we want to focus on recycling and long shipment times are the norm, maybe aluminum is better.

...we're discussing a company that insists on buying its beer cans from Japan. By the way:

    The first thing that got me thinking was the often made argument that it would be more environmentally friendly to buy a used Hummer and drive it to death than buy a brand new Prius.

It's more environmentally friendly to walk. "should I buy a new thing or a used thing" - well duh, buy the used thing. The question isn't new Prius or used Hummer, the question is new Prius or NEW Hummer.




user-inactivated  ·  82 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Your counterargument was "it depends" and then you linked to an article that says, effectively, glass isn't NECESSARILY the winner.

If the idea I'm putting forth is "it depends" and I linked to an article that talks about the variables between aluminum and glass, then the article supports the idea I'm putting forth.

    we're discussing a company that insists on buying its beer cans from Japan.

Never in my original comment or any follow up comment did I talk about specific companies. I'm just comparing glass to aluminum and the pros and cons of each, in this instance, recycling, shipping, consuming, etc., and looking at general ideas.

I feel like you and I are using the same words, but we're having two different conversations. Why we're having two different conversations, I do not know and I don't really have any desire to analyze why. That said, we both shared ideas, hopefully we both got something out of it, so lets call it a night before this conversation devolves into fruitless quibbling.

Thank you again though, because like I said, you got the noodle cooking.