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WTF_isthis  ·  2893 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Homelessness up 26% in LA YoY, 10% in Seattle , *61%* among LA youth

I'm seeing some dodgy statistics in the comments. The actual number of homeless in a given area is difficult to even estimate, those who compile and track such stats usually include a codicils about that. Like unemployment stats, which really only track the number of people who have applied for unemployment, the methodology is known to be imperfect.

I believe homeless counts follow the number of people staying the night at shelters. Thing is, it's estimated that at least 50 percent of homeless folk never, ever, use a shelter. In homeless circles, shelters are perceived as more dangerous than sleeping in the streets. Lots of predators can be found at shelters, the shelter management simply lack the resources to keep them safe.

So doubling the "official" count is a more accurate estimate. I was quite surprised to learn of the number of homeless where I previously lived. It's a growing problem here in the US.





cgod  ·  2892 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Unemployment is not generated by looking at the number of people who have applied for unemployment.

    which really only track the number of people who have applied for unemployment
the "which really" of authority, lol. You are way off the mark.

The number that tracks how many people who have applied for unemployment is called "jobless claims" by the BLS I believe.

Unemployment numbers are imperfect but they give a pretty good idea of what's going on.

In my city homeless counts are done with a point in time count where workers canvas the city for a whole day. By gathering the data of people who have experienced homeless at that point in time they can extrapolate how many people were homeless for the year, for how long a part of the year and for how long the average person spends homeless. There are a few other survey methods that are used to try and get a better picture, but the point in time count is the big all hands on deck one day orgy of homeless quantification.

Your shit is super dodgy.

user-inactivated  ·  2892 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Unemployment is not generated by looking at the number of people who have applied for unemployment.

Current Population Survey provides this, if anyone is wondering. BLS has a faq page with an answer about how it gets the data.

cgod  ·  2892 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I was going to let him do his own homework.

user-inactivated  ·  2892 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sorry to spoil the suspense.

To be honest, I had to google it myself. I figured I might as well post the links while I had 'em handy.

cgod  ·  2891 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I only remembered that it was by some kind if household survey. Macro economics was a long time ago.