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kleinbl00  ·  762 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: YOU DRAW IT: The Opioid Epidemic

My personal take is that legalization and criminalization are not antonyms but represent two extremes of a thorny problem - mainly that the "victimless" in "victimless crime" is entirely dependent on how you define the externalities. Your "stupid decisions" are entirely your own problem up to the point where you break into my wife's mailbox hunting for checks to cash (as happened last night). Except not even that's true because by the time you're breaking into strangers' mailboxes looking for checks to cash, you've likely torn a swath of destruction through your extended family that extends from unpaid loans to purse raidings to check fraud.

The threat of punishment is failing to curb most people's addictions. It's foolish to assume that the abstract threat of jail at some point in the indeterminate future will have a deterrent effect when the majority of crimes committed by addicts are crimes of opportunity.

I don't have any pet solutions to this problem. I don't know what works. I know that society is rarely served by increasing the prison population and I know that when you incentivize doctors to prescribe addictive substances to patients you are likely to end up with more addicts. Is that their fault? Should they know better? Don't we all wish. The problem with most "you do you, I do me" forms of government and policing end up with the failures living a hardscrabble existence outside the barricades while those of us who don't fail are still talking over security options with the goddamn landlord.

I don't remember where I heard it, but someone described heroin as a high interest rate credit card for your pleasure centers. You can spend well beyond your means but once you hit your credit limit the bills are murder.

My high school posse has a bodycount of 5 associated with heroin and its distribution.

user-inactivated  ·  762 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah. People are going to steal, cheat, kill, all sorts of stuff. And they'll do that for all sorts of reasons. And those things are already crimes, so why criminalize the reasons why they're doing it? I would much prefer a treatment mentality than a criminalization mentality. Hopefully that turns up.

And victimless is a hard situation to actually be in. I mean, if a mom's doing heroin after dropping the kid off at kindergarden, and usually is totally ready to come get him at the end of the day, what happens when she nods off and he needs to come home early? That's like the most lighthearted situation I could think of! But the same can be said for funcitoning alcoholics. It's all a nasty thing that people do to themselves.

kleinbl00  ·  762 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Buddy of mine started divorce proceedings against his wife when she blew a 0.14. A samaritan had reported her bouncing off the barriers on the freeway and then saw kids in the car seats in back. They weren't even buckled in.

Except that's not true. He started divorce proceedings when one of them got her arm caught in the gate and stood next to the house screaming for 45 minutes because her sister couldn't wake mommy up.

Except that's not true either. She divorced him when she determined it was more expedient to just bang her meth dealer since he was a CI and was never prosecuted nor had his supply interrupted.

Kids are fine now, thank god but no. There are no jocular involvements between addiction/alcoholism and children. I got the scars to prove it.