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lil  ·  2792 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Oxford Comma: Great For Listing, Pontificating, And Winning Court Cases

It's the adult way to punctuate.

Seriously.

Those who argue against the Oxford comma claim that they were taught in grade 2 that commas in a list mean "and," so if you already have an "and" before the last item in a list, you do not need a comma. For example,

Grade 2: She came home with a book, a toy, a bat and a ball.

Oxford: She came home with a book, a toy, a bat, and a ball. or

She came home with a book, a toy, and a bat and ball.





rjw  ·  2790 days ago  ·  link  ·  
user-inactivated  ·  2792 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Grade 2: She came home with a book, a toy, a bat and a ball.

How weird is that: such a common item of punctuation having such varied use in different languages?

This is how we put a comma in a Russian language list. It seems weird to me that you would put a comma after the next-to-last item on the list. There's no particular logic behind it: we just don't have the Oxford comma in Russian.

Formerly_Me  ·  2792 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That line of argument doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If commas meant "and" then why not use semicolons instead? (I'm not trying to argue with you; I'm just putting into text something I noticed.)

lil  ·  2792 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It doesn't make a lot of sense, but that's how they teach children to punctuate a list. They give them this sentence, "He came home with a book and a toy and a bat and a ball."

Then they tell the junior units to put a comma where the ands are -- except the last one.

I don't think they get to semicolons till at least grade 8, if ever.