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mk  ·  2905 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Possible Biosignatures Found in Spirit Rover's Data

    "However, because of the challenges in obtaining unambiguous evidence in situ, coordinated microscopic and compositional analyses of samples returned to laboratories on Earth may be required to reach a robust conclusion as to the presence or absence of past Martian life in these rocks," Ruff and Farmer stated.

For many years I have dreamed of making a robot that returns from Mars with samples. I think it could be crowdfunded. Basically, get 100M in crowdfunding, then contract it.





kleinbl00  ·  2905 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thinkin' you're off budget by a factor of 100 or more. The Decadal Survey guessed $6b for a sample-return mission and while Musk thinks he can do it cheaper, he also claims he can sell $7 solar panels for a dollar.

mk  ·  2905 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Maybe by 10. Spirit and opportunity cost $400M each. I guess it all depends on how selective your sample is, and whether or not the return rocket takes the needed fuel with it.

I'm thinking of just grabbing whatever scoop you can get, and blasting off. Spirit weighs 400lbs. I wonder what is the lightest rocket that you can get to escape Mars with 1lb of soil.

kleinbl00  ·  2905 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The trick is getting back up the gravity well. I'm sure Kerbal Space Program could tell you.

The fact that the Soviets started their discussion with an N1 does not fill me with confidence that it can be done economically.

Something something 16 tons of hydrogen delivered to the surface of Mars. Something something fully-loaded Falcon 9 on the fucking surface.

mk  ·  2905 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I was looking at the Kerbal calculator, but decided it would not be a rational time expenditure atm.

Here's a less "Red" solution: Drop a hydrogen bomb on Mars, and skim a return spacecraft through the dust cloud. :)

kleinbl00  ·  2905 days ago  ·  link  ·  

About 20 years back I read an article in Analog proposing that terraforming Mars could most easily be effected by causing an artificial greenhouse effect via carpetbombing the place with millions upon millions of megatons of thermonuclear weapons.

It'd sure free up some sequestered oxygen and nitrogen, you betcha.

user-inactivated  ·  2905 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That'd be a (very expensive) way to dispose of nukes without worrying about NIMBYism, at least.

kleinbl00  ·  2905 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yes. I have seen similar proposals to dispose of nuclear waste by launching it into the sun.

what could go wrong