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user-inactivated  ·  2993 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: My mental hurdle: Universal Basic Income

    My issue with a UBI is very simple. If we cut the food stamp, WIC, Section 8, earned income credits, dependent credits, head start, school lunches, and most of not all of the redundant programs and funds and trusts that help poor people, and replace then withe the UBI? I'm all for it. Simplify the means of helping poor people get back on their feet, help the dependent poor not starve and turn to crime and you save the taxpayer money, actually help out those in need and take some the stigma from anti-poverty programs.

Know what else these programs do besides just give people money? Knowledge and encouragement. They teach people how to feed themselves properly, how to apply for and keep jobs, to know what labor laws and tenants rights are and how they can protect you. Do they always do an amazing job? No. But these programs and the agencies that run them do more than just cut paychecks and if UBI becomes a thing, I think these organizations will find ways to continue to justify their existence.

Edit: Now that I think about it, if UBI becomes a thing, this lifts a huge burden off of these programs and agencies, allowing them to focus more on other problems, hopefully making them more effective.





user-inactivated  ·  2992 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Know what else these programs do besides just give people money? Knowledge and encouragement.

That is why I think we need a national service program. Are you 17- 20 and have no clue what you want to do with your life? Give us 3 years and at the end we will pay for either college or a trade school. Make it like the Civilian Conservation Corps, or some of the New Deal programs that put people to work. Build friendships, build ownership in the country, build opportunities.

Deltron_0  ·  2993 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Know what else these programs do besides just give people money? Knowledge and encouragement.

to me, that is a dangerous relationship people see in how they value money - and it will change before the end of the century.

Money, in its basic form, was not recognized as a medium for empowering any condition of self-worth. It was simply agreed upon in basic principle as a medium for exchanging goods and services.

Money today is being used by everyone - for means beyond what it's most effective at doing.

Before you start empowering the people, the people ought to have a chance to exchange their values freely. The hidden baggage behind fiat currencies today are beginning to show up at the checkout line.

goobster  ·  2993 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Know what else these programs do besides just give people money? Knowledge and encouragement.

Right!

Now imagine if those programs could just focus on knowledge and encouragement, and not have to worry about basic monetary needs like food and housing being met! Imagine how much more effective these trainings and personal development courses could be...