The only thing you are all missing, including the ever intelligent kleinbl00, is that your claims are falling on dead ears, out of the divisive arguments you have all made. Legitimate claims, backed by history, they are.... but Divisive, they remain. A free market does work in an unlimited economy. Mankind does not have that "luxury" anymore. With that said, we are doomed to fail as a species. Unless we develop as a species beyond the means of the Earth. I dream of a future where persons can live by their own set of laws - in peace and acceptance of each other- even if they are ideologically opposed to one another. The "limitless" scale of the cosmos is REAL. The habitability of space is REAL. Our position to do so as a species is the hurdle. the political elite has clearly lost this election. Age-old positions and political jockey-ing are not owned by one entity, you divisive hypocrite. No one likes attacking the "indefensible." But, it seems that you have brought this upon yourself. Now I'll give an imaginary high-five to whoever can craft the best reply demeaning my position. I'll give bonus points if you can make me feel like an idiot, too. Do I even need to quote John Adams with his political position anymore?
The only way the claims can be divisive is if the "accused" (Republicans) contest the assertion, and the historical facts. Otherwise it is a simple statement of fact. No, the people who understand how government works, have lost the election. You now have the equivalent of fry cooks running the nuclear power plant. And that's gonna work out just swell. You also rambled off on some tangent about the free market, which didn't make a lot of sense, so I will respond with this: Government and business are completely intertwined. Businesspeople get paid for meeting goals. Those goals require margins to be as tight as possible, and profits to be as high as possible. Government adjustments to trade deals, interest rates, tax laws, etc, cause uncertainty, and make businesspeople scramble to make their margins to meet their goals, so they can get paid. Trump understands none of this complexity, or the intertwined nature of government and finance, and so he is already a bull in a china shop. Here's the deal: He wants to levy a 45% import duty on all Chinese imports. That will reduce American exports around the world (in part, because, in a retaliatory measure, China will lower their prices in other markets to make American imports prohibitively expensive), which will produce a 1.5% decrease in the US GDP in the first year, and then double every year until the crashing US economy forces Trump to renegotiate our foreign trade deals. But instead of renegotiating from a position of strength, it will be from a position of weakness, and will ensure we get WORSE trade deals than we started with. In addition, the Mexican peso collapses, which then causes more illegal immigration into America, which American businesses welcome, because now their products can't compete on the international markets, so they have to cut costs, and American workers won't work for $5/hr, but an illegal immigrant will. And all this info is basically cribbed from one Forbes article, and two articles in the Economist. Not exactly bastions of left-wing liberal thought. Offense is taken, not given. So if you are offended by me directly quoting your god, Lee Atwater, it's not me being offensive, it is you being in denial about your true origins. Legitimate claims, backed by history, they are.... but Divisive, they remain.
the political elite has clearly lost this election.
ok then, the facts are divisive by nature. Mankind has never gotten along, and as long as 7 billion are living on this planet, they never will. The old-argument that liberal agendas are often narrow and divisive by their nature is proving to be just as true today. I am looking at the fact that the politically divided reality of modern history is reaching a fever pitch. The modern liberal movement is equally guilty of mishandling their agenda as the racist republican party. The political party system is destroying the United States of America as the founding fathers envisioned. Their unifying principles are gone in todays politicking. aka the political elite. Our government does not function anymore. The election proved this - I believe we're arguing the same end-game through a different lense. The Dollar is not backed on the economic health of our neighbors. It isn't technically backed by anything. Bretton Woods sought to establish a world reserve currency - well, technology has disrupted this position. Technology has a way of doing that. Look, I'm holding a position that isn't represented anywhere on this site, and it is seen as conspiracy theory bullshit by all who are reading from the "reputable" sources. There was so much more BS behind this campaign than was ever covered - considering the majority of the entire election was a controlled attack on the candidates themselves. History is repeating itself - and whether you like it or not, technology has under-cutted many of the basic public services originally implemented by a central governing body. I have personally worked with racists, mysoganists, and murderers. Have you? Guess what, things can get so bad - that no one cares about what you think anymore - they just want to get through the shit so they can go home to their families. I didn't agree with them in any fucking way, and I didn't chose to work with them. They happened to be there, and dealing with them was necessary in order to get my paycheck. Forbes and the Economist are bastions of popular opinion. They have never called anything, they appeal to a user-base while sprinkling their bias here and there. They aren't CNN, but they are definitely not within the realm of thought the real movers in this world are in. They're (for the most part) commenting on popular topics of an economic engine. Bubbles. How many more bubbles you want to watch burst before there is a reset? The bubbles are propagated by mis-lead principles of value, and those seeking to capitalize on the movements. The jury is still out on trump, at least for those who aren't "too big to fail."the people who understand how government works, have lost the election
for the record: I am easily compromised by my emotions. I gotta work on that part. I am definitely attacking the entire system of value and the role of government in society, to be completely clear. I hold this position based on what I have learned, and who I have spoken with in person. It is not popular. Especially online.