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blackbootz  ·  3235 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: April 6, 2016

Hhhnnnnnggg

It's fascinating how much of my decision making process I've crowdsourced to Hubski lately. I say that because as each new development occurs in my life, among my first thoughts are, "I wonder what my third place has to say about this."

steve, determinedkid... it seems that my moving to Colorado is a little less sure this week than it was two weeks ago. That's because the guy I've been working for -- a successful, self-made guy who runs an internet company and also owns and operates a bunch of rental properties -- thinks it would be a great idea to expand our relationship and to hire me on a more full-time basis. I've been doing part-time general labor and repairs for him, as well as more sophisticated stuff like contract review and data analysis. The work is interesting because of the access I get to his businesses. He's showing me all sorts of things all the time, bouncing problems and ideas off me, letting me look under the hood and ask lots of questions. And he's an absolute joy to work for/with. He's trusting, super smart, accommodating and flexible. Not to mention, he's also an interesting and hilarious guy. The pay isn't anything to write home about... but I am without a college degree or relevant work experience. A raw bundle of potential, but not much more.

I've been working for him for the last few months while in Baltimore. Two weeks ago, we had a long conversation about how great it's been working together, and our conclusion was that it was an exciting thought the idea of us continuing our relationship for another year or two.

On the one hand, I've been planning to move Colorado for lord knows how long, and a lot of you guys have been very privy to this goal. And it feels jarring and a bit disconcerting to consider changing my course so abruptly. On the other hand... the process of weighing this decision has made me realize that there is a lot of good things here for me. I could live rent-free with my wonderful mom. I could start school a lot sooner than if I were to try and move to Colorado, establish residency, and transfer colleges (not to mention it would be a much more of an assured process). I'd be nearer friends and family. And goals that have been pie-in-the-sky up to this point would be a lot more accomplishable, like affording Invisalign (wear your retainers, kids) and continuing my mission of helping underserved communities, like those in Baltimore. Actually, my discovery of all these resources and opportunities here at home that I've been unconsciously looking past in favor of greener pastures has been kind of embarrassing. Immigrants everywhere would be ruefully disappointed with me.

The way I talk about it, it feels like the decision has already been made. And I've just been resisting gravity. In any case, it's helpful for me to put this all into words. As it stands now, my boss is going to write up a proposal for the commitment between us for me to then look over, and I think I'll get it in the next week or so. From there, it's a matter of me saying yes or no. Life, man.





user-inactivated  ·  3235 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Take an immigrant's advice and go where the definitive money is. If that means Baltimore, it's Baltimore, if it means Colorado it's Colorado, if it means the middle of Kuwait, then it's the middle of Kuwait.

steve  ·  3235 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Whatever his proposal is - review it and counter it with AT LEAST a 10% uptick in the money. Maybe even lean into 20%. Maybe more. Don't be afraid to ask.

    And he's an absolute joy to work for/with. He's trusting, super smart, accommodating and flexible.

That's awesome. I wouldn't walk away from that. liking the people you work with/for is worth A LOT in dollars.

    Not to mention, he's also an interesting and hilarious guy.

So are you... so quit selling yourself short with this nonsense:

    but I am without a college degree or relevant work experience. A raw bundle of potential, but not much more.

Focus on the bundle of potential. You've got a TON to offer him. He wouldn't bother thinking of your future with his outfit if he didn't want to keep you around. He likes you because you're thoughtful and a hard worker and interesting, and intelligent, and clean, and well spoken, and a problem solver and and and... I'd trade you RIGHT NOW for dozens of people at my company who have degrees and "experience".

Don't trade an old dream of living in Colorado for a great current situation. You can ALWAYS move to CO later... you probably can't go back and work for him later.

blackbootz  ·  3234 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I really appreciate the feedback, and the encouragement. About the money, I had a few back-and-forths about it, but he's pretty firm on the figure. Which he, by the way, thinks is slightly above market value for me. I'm gonna put it to him that we review my value and my compensation by the end of the calendar year. So I'm not as excited about the money piece. But when I think about the sum of the opportunity, I feel like I'm getting 85% of what I reasonably could expect, and there's a lot of perks and future good experiences built into the deal.

It's important to me start this thing as excited as I can be. Not a fake enthusiasm, but from a place where I'm not focusing on what I didn't get but all the good things. Because while I could walk away and stew about how my first interesting non-restaurant non-volunteer job should pay higher, I don't know if I'll be better off by, say, the end of this year. Whereas if I do this, I'm sure I'll be better off for it.