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kleinbl00  ·  2948 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Why Bernie Sanders Already Won

Driving in a snowstorm is terrible, too, but you don't improve it by bouncing off the guardrails. If the snow let up AND the road wasn't so icy, it might not suck so hard. But that's about as likely to happen as it is that the 2-party system will be changed by voting third party.





lila  ·  2945 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My first response to this article was: wow if that is what Nader did what an ass. Then I remembered that I must also be an ass . I have joked many times among friends that all the democrats should start voting republican if they really want change because if undiluted republican governing ideas were put into action and the results were terrible then people would be more likely to want the opposite pendulum swing and society would move much farther left in a possibly shorter time frame. I said it as a joke, but damn, some people actually adopt that as a political strategy.

kleinbl00  ·  2945 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    But the financial records show that $23,000 in checks of $1,000 or more have come from loyal Republicans. Among those who have given recently to Nader are Houston businessman Nijad Fares, who donated $200,000 to President Bush's 2000 inaugural committee; Richard J. Egan, the former ambassador to Ireland, and his wife, Pamela, who have raised more than $300,000 for Bush; Michigan developer Ghassan Saab, who has given $30,000 to the RNC since 2001; and frozen food magnate Jeno Paulucci, and his wife, Lois, who have donated $150, 000 to GOP causes since 2000 alone.

    All have donated the maximum $2,000 to Nader's campaign since April, records show.

http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/GOP-donors-funding-Nader-Bush-supporters-give-2708705.php

tehstone  ·  2948 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have no delusions that my choice to vote third party will change anything. But I'm not going to give in to a false choice between two options that don't represent my views.

lila  ·  2945 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Voting third party in a general election will not likely get a particular candidate elected but I would not go so far to say that it does not change anything. Voting third party seems to be effective at accomplishing one goal: pushing the the Republican and Democratic parties further right and left respectively. Recent examples include Bernie Sanders support pushing Hillary into a further left position on trade agreements in the primary and Anti establishment Trump and Cruz supporters splitting republican support

user-inactivated  ·  2948 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The lesser evil is less evil.

kleinbl00  ·  2948 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Just do me a favor - vote for the guy you want to win the least.

Gregoire won by 129 votes, out of 2.7 million cast.