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someguyfromcanada  ·  3257 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: From Pickup Artist to Pariah

Never heard of Evola. From what little I have seen just now (which is little), he would seem to appeal to male college PUAs and MRAs. But is the "thinking man's" Neil Strauss and being a MRA/PUA is not the primary focus of his writing.

I do not know anyone that has any interest in PUA theory, legos, Star Wars, white supremacy theory, the Illuminati, pokemon, chess, cryptic crosswords, furries, heroin, reptiles, etc. There are many of people out there that do but there are so many people that we do not always meet them and even if we do we self-select our friends/acquaintances.

We all like different things for different reasons and are drawn to and choose to hang out with those with similar interests. It seems that the primary characteristic that you do not share with PUAs is the desire to downplay the intellectual and emotional intelligence of women and a desire to exploit and manipulate them.





user-inactivated  ·  3257 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I so didn't mean to send you down that rabbit hole. Evola was the philosopher who was opposed to fascism because it wasn't far right enough. He's worth knowing about in a "wow, that guy existed" sort of way, but not beyond that.

Which was my point, that I probably obscured by using personal examples. We don't just get exposed to things because we hang out with people like us and people like us like those things. . I made an example of similarly vile books without thinking to describe them as such, and you went and checked him out.

You don't have any interest in a long list of things, but I bet you've had more than a little exposure to most of them. You are aware of white supremacist theorists, none of whom you're likely to encounter without wandering pretty deep into Wikipedia, or having a brighter-than-your-average white supremacist rant at you for a while. Either one will show you how people who get into white supremacy through theory do so; Evola being handed out at underground-or-whatever-we're-calling-it-now music events, the Turner Diaries being handed out at gun shows, probably others being handed out to other communities. There are groups doing outreach; go where the angry white people are, hand out books some of them will get curious about. Most don't get read, some number know the book and want nothing to do with it, and some smart-but-not-too-smart angry white people read the book, have the wrong sort of epiphany and share it with their friends. And so you get people who should be too smart to be white supremacists but are, and everyone else learns to recognize and ignore them. A couple of people reading this in chatter tomorrow will probably remember mayonesa from reddit.

That's comprehensible. I don't wonder where the smart, bookish, vocal racists come from. I wonder where these guys come from, because the manosphere looks to be mostly talking to itself, and outsiders talking about it are not sympathetic.