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kleinbl00  ·  1434 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Threat from Artificial Intelligence not just Hollywood fantasy

Seriously? "We'd evolve civilization?" Your starting point is "I am naked with no pointy stick" and your end point is "modern standard and gun them all down" and in between, you need to show the steps where the deer let it happen.

I know you don't know about the "key to destruction" part.

THAT IS THE POINT.

Neither does anyone who foretells our doom because of it.

THAT IS THE POINT.

Despite their ignorance, these things are not unknowable.

THAT IS THE POINT.

And the people who are involved in actual automation, in actual logistics, in actual mechatronics, in actual instrumentation, in actual systems integration, not only know these things, but they don't have trouble sleeping at night because they aren't gripped with constant fear of Skynet.

THAT IS THE POINT.

"Fear of AI" is something philosophers do. It's something "thinkers" do. It's something screenwriters do. It's not something people who are involved in machine intelligence and automation do because it's bullshit. It's pure unadulterated bullshit. SATAN Mk. II could arise to consciousness deep in the bowels of the NSA right fucking now and the best it could do would be to make intelligence officers doubt the veracity of their files.

THAT IS THE POINT.

Know your problem? here it is:

" If we end up in another cold war, and someone decided to use a slaved AI to manage their defenses better than the enemy."

"I don't understand how this stuff works, but I presume that people who understand better than me have absolutely no reservations about removing all human control from a system capable of annihilating all life on earth, despite the fact that I'm fifteen comments deep into an argument about distrusting machines with life-and-death control."




hyperflare  ·  1434 days ago  ·  link  ·  

But deer let it happen in this world. Are your fictional deer so much smarter?

It's nice that you care so much about what I know and what I don't, but the people sleeping soundly at night matter fuck all for this problem.

The point of discussing AI is that it's going to change the world very quickly. I think it's a fool's errand to try and foretell anything beyond that point. Predicting AI's actions at this point is useless because we don't know much about how it will look in the end. It won't act like an industrial robot of today any more than we act like a bacteria. The point of AI isn't having a very good computer, it's that intelligence will increase exponentially from that point on. And if you still think that that isn't dangerous, I give up.

So yeah, I think it's a good idea to step back for a second and think hard about how exactly this thing can fuck us over if we plug it in before we do. Sue me.

kleinbl00  ·  1434 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think it's funny that you believe humans evolved from deer. There has never been a time when deer haven't been predated by humans, and there has never been a time when deer have trusted humans.

The point of this discussion is that somehow, humans will be completely trusting of AI, which they will create, which they will give total control over their world, so that it will betray their trust and destroy them.

And it's silly.

Here you are, getting butt hurt over the notion that I don't think we should worry about AI fucking us over, when you aren't even understanding that humans who work with automation distrust automation innately which is why we shouldn't worry about malevolent AI. But since people who don't work with automation don't understand automation, they assume that the people that do will trust it blindly.

And it's silly.