My read doesn't see them as very different messages but rather complementary. "Maybe women can do math and science perfectly well but they just don’t like to." Maybe they don't like to because of societal expectations. Or as Eccles says "my own opinion is that these differences reflect, at least to some extent, inaccurate stereotypes about physical sciences and engineering." Why do those difference exist? Why do different expectations exist? How did they come to be? When I read the original piece I see discussion that offers answers to those questions. I don't see it ignoring that those expectations exist, and I don't see it arguing those expectations are fair or reasonable or good.
I strongly disagree that "women just don't like something" is logically equivalent to "girls in kindergarten like this thing. 12 years later, most no longer do". And we don't need his guesswork for answers. There's been a huge body of research on why women are underrepresented in STEM, and I'm much more interested in those studies then someone who parallels scientific careers for men to diaper changing for women. Ugh - how do you seriously back a guy who talks that way? Is this the 50s? Girls do like STEM. We change that. Saying they don't is patently false, I don't really understand how you think it's the same. It's too bad. Hubski doesn't have a ton of content lately, it seems like every time I'm on here some popular post involves bickering over sexism. I'm really done reading this crap, I'll hop off for a while and try filtering out even more of the few discussions there are on here.
I simply asked you to defend your assertion that he's misrepresenting Eccles.Ugh - how do you seriously back a guy who talks that way? Is this the 50s?
Sorry, I've never read any of those studies showing that society changes girls towards not liking STEM. Do we really know that for sure? Or could it just happen that girls lose interest naturally? I mean, are there any kind of control groups, that if society would change, that we would have more women in STEM, maybe even more than men? (For sure, if society can turn of girls, it should be able to do it with boys too, right?)
Of course we don't have control groups because you aren't allowed to raise children in a bubble to appease idiots online. Good point, its much more logical to conclude our ovaries cause a natural fear of binary, totally makes sense. 70 days here and this is your only comment? As for the studies try Google, I'm done with this.