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user-inactivated  ·  3153 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Some people worth following

    of course they can believe what they want to believe - it does not mean it's healthy

I don't see how that should matter to you unless you're under any sort of assault from such people. There are plenty of people who believe themselves to be one gender trapped in the other's body. Unusual? Certainly. Unhealthy? Arguably. A source of problem for those around? Not unless they project actively their vision of themselves onto others.

I had troubles associating with humanity and humans because, until the age of 19, I was never accepted as a person. I had very different ideas from my peers - the idea of mutual respect, of kindness and helping etc. - and as such, I had big troubles connecting to others. You know who I thought I was? A Martian, as a species not terran yet a prominent humanoid. What helped me overcome that is someone acceptance, someone showing me that I'm actually as human as I can be, and all my troubles are of a human being. Was it healthy for me to believe otherwise? Arguably. Did it do me good to be accepted despite my beliefs? Most certainly.

The way I see it, you aren't helping anyone with what you do. If you're coming up to people you barely know and tell them that they have mental issues, who's benefitting from that? No one. I wouldn't listen to a stranger telling me that I have mental issues, especially if their sole motivation is to "get me healthy". "Go fuck yourself, dude!".

People believe whatever makes them comfortable with the world around them, most of the times. It is when brain chemistry messes with the people, then they might need help. Not yours, but those who care about said people and have their trust. You're just putting sticks into others' wheels. Don't do that, or don't be surprised when others do the same to you.





Killerhurtz  ·  3153 days ago  ·  link  ·  

First, I AM under assault from them almost regularly - my city has a population of them, and I possess physical traits (most notably my long hair and natural longer canine teeth) that make them want to accost me - and thus they react poorly when I tell them I am not part of it and am not interested in it. And in my other discussion, I actually discussed gender - gender is not unusual considering there IS all of the wiring and hormones necessary for both genders in both sexes - different upbringing, genetics and hormone levels can cause a variety of gender fluidity - and that is not strange to me. However, never has humans been another species - at least not in the last tens or hundreds of thousands of years, and even then the species that we were before was not entirely dissimilar to us. We never were bears, fishes, foxes.

As for association - I never truly associated with people either. But did I give up on humans? No. Did I start considering myself human? No. I looked elsewhere and found actual people to look up to - to tell me that people can be fine as much as they're assholes. And your story actually proves my point - you grew out of it when the root issues were resolved.

As for this - I'm not coming up to people and telling them to get help, not specifically. In particular, the conversation itself had a context - the context was about, specifically, psychology regarding otherkin (specifically vampire-kin in this case. I didn't just find an otherkin and tell them that - I voiced an opinion relevant to the article at hand. Of course I don't go up to people to tell them they're fucked in the head - I had just expressed, in a relevant area, my beliefs on the subject based on my experience with the subject group - it just so happened that the opinion was "I wish they would get help for this".

user-inactivated  ·  3153 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    it just so happened that the opinion was "I wish they would get help for this"

So, once again... Why? Because it's "unhealthy"? Why that, then? How are those people any problem to you so that you'd decide that it's a good thing for you to poke your nose into their business? I don't see any danger coming from those people, as much as I don't see danger from transsexuals.

Killerhurtz  ·  3152 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yes, because it's unhealthy. As for being a problem - a small subset of them already are by their sapeinophobic points of view... And it's still unhealthy - do you seriously believe we should always wait until it becomes a problem to treat things at any rate? Wait until there's a threat to do things instead of preemptively getting people to be well again?

They deserve a healthy mind. We shouldn't wait until they completely break to help them.

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