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comment by Liberi_Fatales

    I don't think you can really compare SRS pointing out shitty comments to Stormfronters and Coontown members

You're right, they are often worse! Nothing says equality and justice for all like doxxing (actual doxx, not a skiddy facebook doxx) people and harassing them across the internet encouraging people to kill themselves.

    They also have the opportunity to live their lives without being challenged for their racism

Isn't the fact that you and seemingly half of the internet seek to silence their admittedly disdainful activity proof to the contrary?

    Probably not the best example, TwoX was overrun by MRAs and men in general and so all the women had to leave...

Yep, absolutely infested with MRA's

Nice straw man though.

    That's certainly a common stereotype but not really true

Do you require more evidence? I am certain I can provide mountains of it.

    Framing it as an issue of "ideologies" is a little disingenuous, generally the protests occurred with people who have endorsed incest, date rape, etc.

This is unequivocally the most disingenuous disgusting thing that has come out of this discussion.

Let me get this straight; You believe wholeheartedly that anyone who does not conform to a left leaning feminist political spectrum endorsed incest, date rape and more?

Think about that.

    Exactly! So why force minorities out of our communities instead of being more inclusive and having a discussion with them?

Nobody is forcing minorities out. I don't recall seeing a post on reddit from the admins saying "Sorry, we don't want the brown folk and jews here anymore!". You instead create a hypersensitive hugbox that in general drives traffic away because of its unwelcoming atmosphere (Take a look at Alexa rankings for reddit recently if you are doubtful). Reddit (already infamous for it's hivemind activity), becomes an even larger echo chamber, where you can circlejerk as long as your arms allow.

    But nobody is talking about silencing them.

Except you're doing just that..

    They still have free speech, they can just do it elsewhere.

It's hilariously ironic that you use this specific phrasing. Gee, it reminds me of something oddly familiar and related to this topic..

    I'm not going to invite one to stay in my house though. That's not "silencing" them because I don't allow them in my private space

The internet is NOT your private space. It never has, and never will be.

    But secondly, the common myth about the Church stifling views has been debunked so many times.

Citation required, because every reputable resource refutes your claims.





mrsamsa  ·  3444 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    You're right, they are often worse! Nothing says equality and justice for all like doxxing (actual doxx, not a skiddy facebook doxx) people and harassing them across the internet encouraging people to kill themselves.

Just to be clear, not of that happened outside of the minds of conspiracy theorists.

    Isn't the fact that you and seemingly half of the internet seek to silence their admittedly disdainful activity proof to the contrary?

"Half of the internet"? Are you serious? Reddit, "the front page of the internet", supports coontown and basically every second thread on default subs like videos is a highly upvoted racist video. No, there definitely isn't a significant pushback against racism.

    Yep, absolutely infested with MRA's Nice straw man though.

There's no strawman. Have you ever been there? Actually looked at the comments? Women literally left there when it got defaulted and went to TrollX instead. That's why there was a massive spike in users, because everything something like harassment, cat calling or rape came up, a bunch of men would be there telling women it's not so bad.

    Do you require more evidence? I am certain I can provide mountains of it.

Well yes, I would love a single piece of evidence to support any of your claims.

    This is unequivocally the most disingenuous disgusting thing that has come out of this discussion. Let me get this straight; You believe wholeheartedly that anyone who does not conform to a left leaning feminist political spectrum endorsed incest, date rape and more? Think about that.

What are you talking about? No, people who write books endorsing incest and date rape, then become "famous" for that book and then give talks that include discussion of those books, endorses incest, date rape and more. Like Warren Farrell, whose talk was peacefully protested.

    Nobody is forcing minorities out. I don't recall seeing a post on reddit from the admins saying "Sorry, we don't want the brown folk and jews here anymore!". You instead create a hypersensitive hugbox that in general drives traffic away because of its unwelcoming atmosphere (Take a look at Alexa rankings for reddit recently if you are doubtful). Reddit (already infamous for it's hivemind activity), becomes an even larger echo chamber, where you can circlejerk as long as your arms allow.

Racists and bigots in general are forcing minorities out, that's the point. Nobody is asking for a "hug box" (except the racists and "free speechers"), and instead people are just asking for a platform for everyone to have an equal voice.

    Except you're doing just that..

No, they can still talk about it elsewhere.

    It's hilariously ironic that you use this specific phrasing. Gee, it reminds me of something oddly familiar and related to this topic..

Well, it's practically the principle of free speech, so yeah it should sound familiar. Or are you trying to say that getting to choose what happens in your own private home or community is similar to something like racial separation or Nazism?

Please tell me it's the latter, that would be hilarious.

    The internet is NOT your private space. It never has, and never will be.

Of course, that's why I'm not suggesting banning racism from the internet. Reddit and other communities ARE private spaces. You can get upset and throw your toys out of the cot all you like, but that's always going to be true and you can't change that.

    Citation required, because every reputable resource refutes your claims.

Read any history book. A great example is Galileo and helicentrism, which the Pope was a massive supporter of but disagreed with his metaphysical claims about how it affected the nature of god. To explain his point of view, Galileo wrote a book that was essentially a dialogue between two hypothetical people, with one being the scientist (Galileo) and the other having a name that basically translated to "Moron", which contained all the arguments the Pope had raised. That was what he was in trouble for, the blasphemy.

The history of evolution is also another good example, where the Catholic church was the only group that took Darwin seriously. Scientists at his time rejected his claims and thought they sounded a little outlandish, and it wasn't until they learnt more of Mendel's work and looked more into genetics, that it became more widely accepted.

Anyway, if you're actually interested then there's some good discussion and links here, here, and here.