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Mindwolf  ·  3188 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Nine theories of the multiverse.

Bogus isn't a proper word to describe it. The fact is that they do not count as theories. They are hypothetical, meaning that they are a proposed answer to a perceived problem.

Now granted there is a lot of fierce debate over them. And a lot of physicists have called them bogus, but not from a scientific standpoint.

Have you checked out the Wikipedia entry on it? It has some good information though I don't know how TL;DR it is.





enjoyablethings  ·  3188 days ago  ·  link  ·  

So they are hypothetical answers to problems being suggested by the math? What is the confidence level that we're understanding the math and that these theories are even likely?

Mindwolf  ·  3188 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well they all fit the math. The problem is there is not enough that we know to completely flesh out the hypothesis. When you add to the fact that these concepts are not even testable yet adds further chaos.

Testing is what verifies the math. When you can't test, you don't really have anything.

enjoyablethings  ·  3188 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Why can't we test? What is stopping us from figuring out how to interact with parallel universe? If it isn't possible, why?

Mindwolf  ·  3188 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The simplest answer is, we don't know how.

Don't forget, we just proved the Higgs Boson. And we had to build a GIGANTIC particle collider to do it. And what did we find out? More questions. The Standard Model calculated that the Higgs should be at energy level A. String Theory says level C. The LHC found it a level B. Right in between the two theories.

Saying this is an ongoing process would be an understatement. It's also what makes it the most exciting IMHO.

NotAnotherNeil  ·  3187 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Just to take you up on your comment about the Higgs bosons, what you say is not really correct.

Firstly, as far as I am aware, the mass of the Higgs boson is completely compatible with predictions from the standard model.

Secondly, I don't think string theory has any predictions to make about physics at energy scales being tested by the LHC, and certainly didn't have any concrete predictions for the mass of the Higgs (after all, one of the main problems of string theory is that there are many string theories and we have no idea which is the correct one, if indeed one is correct).

Thirdly saying

    The Standard Model calculated that the Higgs should be at energy level A
is not really true. In the Standard Model, the various parameters (such as "bare" masses of the particles and "bare" interaction strengths) are input parameters which one plugs in by hand; there is no calculation directly of the masses (although one can compute corrections to the "bare" masses due to interaction in terms of the input parameters). What one can do is vary, say, the mass of the Higgs and see if one gets computed quantities compatible with the observation; it doesn't directly "calculate" the mass (sorry if this is a bit pedantic).
enjoyablethings  ·  3188 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's interesting. Do you have any links to youtube videos on the topic?

Mindwolf  ·  3188 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Check out a documentary called Particle Fever it chronicles the discovery of the Higgs.

Mindwolf  ·  3188 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hey mk I keep getting bad gateway errors trying to reply in this thread. The comment goes through but I get the 502 Bad Gateway error.

mk  ·  3188 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah, I am troubleshooting this atm. We have a heavy load, but I think there's a bottleneck that we can remove.

Mindwolf  ·  3188 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Glad to know you are on it!