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comment by elvnsword

Ok...

Look, I am not going to argue this point too awful much here, but this is a singular viewpoint, and to play the devil's advocate... the last slaves were not freed till two YEARS after the Emancipation Proclamation, which only freed the slaves in the "Rebel States." This means it was solely a political move meant to engender rebellion and sow chaos on the opposing side of the conflict by inciting riots among the slave populationsm.

Lincoln actually wrote in a letter to Horace Greely in August of 1862, "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union."

Slavery was not his concern in this, he didn't care if the slaves were free or still slaves hence why slavery continued in the northern states unabaited for two years after the ened of the war, and effectively the nation continued slavery through Jim Crow laws involving property, voiting rights, legal rights and other unfair treatments of black people, till 1902! Also don't forget that Blacks were not the only "slaves" in America at the time, Irish Americans were coming over on the boats as indentured servants, and the Chinese/japanese workers were often taken by force into such a life from the ports of Shang Hai, and Tokyo.

I do agree that the impact of slavery in the war has been marginalized by groups such as the sons and daughters of the confederacy, however, such organizations as the NAACP and things like BET television can be just as divisive and damaging. If you want a truely homogenous melting pot them we need to all accept that we have Heritage, and that we have race, and that it is OK to have pride in that, no matter which one that you happen to belong too. White people are still the majority, but that isn't going to be the case much longer. The last year saw the percentages in the census drop to 61%, the lowest ever measureed in the USA.

Unfortunately, and I hate to say this, the 1960s white supremacist had a point. If one group is discouraged from having a racial identity and the others encouraged to embrace their own, then which group is going to have an identity when it is all said and done.





thenewgreen  ·  1661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Here's the thing, I think that most people still take pride in their ethnicity, more so than their race. However, with many African American's this was stolen from them. They're not sure where in Africa or otherwise their lineage hails from. It was stolen. I can pay homage to my ethnicity, my father's side is 100% german and my moms is 100% mexican. I have the ability to learn about my ethnic history. White people, by and large have this ability too. But when you lump everyone together based on a lack of pigment and start celebrating that alone, well that's kind of messed up.

African Americans have a unique history, unto themselves in the US. Therefore, their solidarity makes sense. White's in the US have no shared identity, it would have to be fabricated and forced via something like white supremacy.

freshHamlet  ·  1661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You're focusing on why Lincoln waged war to prevent secession. That's secondary. The south's leaders stated that one of the main reasons they seceded was to keep blacks in slavery.

That's what revisionists are trying to change.

wwsd1380  ·  1660 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The Emancipation Proclamation took so long because he didn't want states that had slaves but didn't want to secede to secede from the Union. Besides, it didn't take THAT long

arguewithatree  ·  1661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

yikes... if you're siding with white supremacists at all... you should probably take a step back.