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bioemerl  ·  3192 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: List of ethical concerns in video games (partial)

If you are going to show that you are being attacked, you must do so to show it is because you are a woman, not because you pissed off a thousand people and gained a large audience.





Shatto  ·  3191 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Women are more often attacked using rape threats, sexual harassment, gendered slurs, etc. Men not so much. A man online won't be so quick to say he's going to rape another man for fear of being laughed at by peers calling him gay. Saying you're going to rape a female, is met with hoots and howls, at worst silence but rarely dissent.

bioemerl  ·  3134 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Women are more often attacked using rape threats, sexual harassment, gendered slurs, etc.

The goalposts have moved.

Do you agree that women need to be showing they are under attack from people who are doing so because they are a woman, and that people currently claiming they are under harassment because of their gender have not shown that this is so?

    Saying you're going to rape a female, is met with hoots and howls, at worst silence but rarely dissent.

From what I have observed, this flat out is not true. Perhaps it happens in low quality, idiot-territories, that I don't visit, but I have never seen this happen. Rape-jokes maybe, but directly saying "i'm going to rape you" in the sexual manner (it's used sometimes as a "absolutely destroy/pillage/rape") is something I have never seen.

Shatto  ·  3134 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Do you agree that women need to be showing they are under attack from people who are doing so because they are a woman, and that people currently claiming they are under harassment because of their gender have not shown that this is so?

Yes to a point, I don't think anytime a woman says they are being harassed that we demand instant proof, sometimes that's not possible but we can't dismiss her claim, you don't have to believe she was harassed but at least believe that she thinks she was harassed. What is harassment to you might be different to her (though it's very clear what harassment is)

Anita for example has proved numerous times she has been harassed and people still think she's just doing it to herself. Harassment is any kind of wanted attention, especially if it persists after they asked you to stop. Felicia Day got doxxed right after talking about GG and being scared of that happening.

My point is that being called an idiot, dick or asshat online is nowhere near as offensive or threatening as rape/death threats and gendered slurs like cunt, bitch, whore that women seem to get , not to mention the classic "get back in the kitchen" everyone is expected to laugh at but one male tears mug lights all their asses on fire and all of a sudden women are misandrists .

    From what I have observed, this flat out is not true. Perhaps it happens in low quality, idiot-territories, that I don't visit, but I have never seen this happen

Not to be rude but have you seen rapes happen? Things can happen that you won't see. I have plenty of friends who are skeptical about the validity of female gamer friends who have said they were harassed. A lot of the time it's not even via voice chat in game, it can be after the game with messages or stalking.

Though here are what it sounds like when it happens via voice so you know what it's like

http://www.notinthekitchenanymore.com/