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usul  ·  4657 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Dressing The Part (or not) in Academia
It was interesting, but I must say I'm deeply skeptical. His GPA suffered due to his teachers' attire? It would be interesting to see a real scientific study on the effect of dressing up on students. I do feel like it makes a qualitative difference to how I feel when I dress up, but as to how that affects others...it's hard to tell. For this author, it seems like he was looking for positive effects and he found them.




muppet  ·  4312 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I agree, I think the author is reaching here. Like cgod, I have had teachers that were fantastic and were dressed rather slovenly. Half the time my head is wrapped around the material or my eyes are focused on anything but the teacher. The board, the screen, my notes... not the profs clothes.
easynow  ·  4509 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Last night I went to a work function of my wives. She said it wasn't that formal. I got there and some of the men were wearing tuxedo's. I had on dress pants, a collared shirt and a sweater (not a cosby sweater, but still a sweater). For most occasions I would have been suitably dressed but last night I was not. It absolutely effected how confident I was. I didn't feel comfortable at all.

Confidence effects our ability to communicate. Therefore, it makes perfect sense to me that a teacher would be better at communicating ideas if they were dressed in a way that made them feel confident.

illu45  ·  4657 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I agree, it does seem like a bit of displacement of responsibility. That said, I think there is some truth to the idea that, if your teachers/mentors look successful, you will also try to look successful in emulating them.

I suppose in many ways this is a bit of an empty article. The author really just seems to be saying that dressing up gets people to respect you more, which seems pretty common-sensical. That said, I did find his exploration as to why academics dressed so 'frumpily' to be an interesting one.

muppet  ·  4312 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I agree, it does seem like a bit of displacement of responsibility. That said, I think there is some truth to the idea that, if your teachers/mentors look successful, you will also try to look successful in emulating them. There is no doubt that professors can become people that students "look up to" and in doing this, they are likely to emulate them not just in their intellectual pursuits but also in their personal habits. So yes, they may have an impact on how you look and therefore, how you feel and perform. Valid point.
muppet  ·  4312 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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thenewgreen  ·  4656 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I think that by dressing in a more formal manner, the students get the impression that the professor is serious about what he/she is presenting. Therefore, the students act accordingly. -Makes sense to me.
mk  ·  4657 days ago  ·  link  ·  
*>it seems like he was looking for positive effects and he found them.P

I agree with that. Also, if the attire made him feel different, I think it's likely he acted different when he wore it.

I'm a pretty casual dresser, but over the years I've tried a lot of different styles of clothes and hair, some that made people confused at times, I think. Back in school I usually had long hair and a wide range of clothing styles. My brother was more traditional, -he wore college t-shirts, etc. For a few days I deliberately dressed like my brother. Almost immediately a girl in my chemistry class (that was a cheerleader, I think) began talking to me. It's just an anecdote, but I do think it makes a difference. I could definitely tell a difference between having long hair and short hair. Some merchants will obviously treat you differently.

If a man in a suit or a man in rags begs my pardon in the street, I can't help but have a different idea of what they are going to ask me.

alpha0  ·  4656 days ago  ·  link  ·  
"I think it's likely he acted different when he wore it."

Doesn't that apply to everyone? It certainly works for me. In fact I noticed that even wearing a wristwatch or long hair has a subtle effect; certainly it is manifested in physical ticks. And when you get into piercings and tattoos the effect is very pronounced.