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And I worked architectural consulting, in a state in which you couldn't get a PE in acoustics. Our firm did HVAC and plumbing, though, and we had one guy who got to call himself an engineer. It was actually in the process of studying for the EIT that I decided I didn't want to be an engineer. I believe that was also the year that the PE pass rate for my state was 16%. Spending that much time on a subject I hated that didn't directly apply to my way of life with chances of success that slim kinda made me go "fuck everything about that" and within 18 months I was mixing television in Hollywood.