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comment by Kaius

Its not fair to compare completely different countries/cultures but when I read a headline like that I cannot help but do a quick study.

Utah

Population: around 3M

2014 police kills: 13

Germany

population: around 80M

2012 police kills: 3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_Germany#2012

Germany gets a really bad rap, ya know after 2 world wars and a holocaust, but its still about 112 times safer than Utah for this one statistic...





Cumol  ·  3686 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Search for Jakob Von Metzler (I am on mobile).

It's a case of a boy kidnapping. The kidnapper was caught, didn't want to tell the officers where he hid the kid. So one of the officers threatened him with pain. He told them and they found the kid (already dead).

Kidnapper got sent to jail.

The crazy part? The officer was charged because he threatened the kidnapper with pain if he didn't tell them.

Will that ever happen in the US? Nope

user-inactivated  ·  3685 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Homeland and 24 being popular is the pop culture embodiment of that sentiment.

Kaius  ·  3686 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Are you saying it was wrong for charges to be brought because of the threat? It should have been disregarded because it involved a child kidnapping?

What if the police had the wrong man, is it still ok to threaten? What if it wasnt a child kidnapping but some other crime? Still ok to threaten?

Slippy slope there isnt it. As i understand from Wikipedia Germany got a human rights caution and he was awarded 3k for emotional damages.

Cumol  ·  3686 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It was not wrong. I like how Germany handles such things. Very Kantian

In the US, the guy would have been threatened, or even beaten until he would have told it.

It's a nice case to discuss

Kaius  ·  3686 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yea i think so too. I dont know if he would have been beaten in the US or not. The fact that a crime was commited against him, he is treated the same regardless of the context or his previous actions.