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organicAnt  ·  3691 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Hey, let's have a discussion about eating meat

Are you seriously comparing the irresponsibility of a vegetarian couple with the death of thousands of people due to consumption of animal products?!





OftenBen  ·  3691 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Nope.

You're saying that improperly applied omnivorism causes pain, suffering and death.

I'm saying that improperly applied veganism causes pain, suffering and death.

The difference is of scale, not of kind.

organicAnt  ·  3691 days ago  ·  link  ·  

There will always be irresponsible people regardless of background or ethical values, we can agree on that much. As I said in another reply any diet can be unhealthy upon the ignorance of nutritional requirements of the human body. Heck a lot of omnivores are deficient in vitamins and minerals for lack of eating enough veggies. The same way veggie diets can be deficient in certain nutrients due to carelessness.

However, the difference of scale does matter. Taking an isolated example which is an exception to the rule and trying to compare it with the systemic health issues caused by meat eating is not a fair comparison by far and you know it. You're clutching at straws here.

OftenBen  ·  3691 days ago  ·  link  ·  

When I ignore scale, i'm using to illustrate a point. The reason that you're more upset about the genocide of animals than the death of a human child, is because of scale, not because of kind.

If we had your ideal system, we would have systemic problems resulting from the mass institution of veganism. Including most likely the mass enslavement of a significant portion of the human population to produce the amount of necessary complex plant proteins and fats.

You're simply saying that it's okay to harm humans to produce human food, but not okay to harm animals to produce human food.

organicAnt  ·  3690 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    You're simply saying that it's okay to harm humans to produce human food, but not okay to harm animals to produce human food.

Seriously?! I honestly don't understand how you get to this conclusion using logic. I'm too tired to take this even remotely seriously.

OftenBen  ·  3690 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Let me know when you are.