Frankly, organicAnt is the one that started a loaded discussion by linking videos of animals, presumably to make the original posters feel guilty, underneath every submission to the #grubski contest that contained meat. He or she claimed that he or she "just couldn't help" it. Apparently, they just couldn't help themselves three times, which is a bit of...oh, this is perfect: OVERKILL The funny thing, by the way, is that scientists have found that vegetables and plants DO react when they/their fruits/legumes/products are gathered, so you're causing pain either way. pseyd - we are in agreement at least so far as the beginning of your post - I also agree that methane is a bad thing and a problem and yes, animals do contribute to that. However, organicAnt's tone has been unhelpful and frankly, uninterested in starting any actual discussion, but just in pushing their own viewpoint by attempting to make other users feel guilty because it so happens that animals are cute. To which I say: grow the fuck up. Either have a viewpoint, when you opt to raise it, be prepared to actually discuss it, or keep your mouth shut. If you're only going to stir the pot without throwing anything in (food metaphors, this is great) then I'm not interested.
It's a snooty, holier-than-thou approach. They shan't actually form an argument or debate! it's much easier to act superior by throwing something sarcastic in and leaving it as if they've won. It's shit-flinging and then saying you've won because nobody slung shit back, or sitting with a (heh) shit-eating grin when someone does.