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user-inactivated  ·  2768 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: (NSFW) Racist comments on reddit gilded significantly, possibly a raid from 4chan's /pol/ board.

It wasn't a CP subreddit, it was a subreddit full of fully clothed teenage girls.

Weird and maybe a little creepy sure, but in no way was it CP. At the time there were claims of CP occassionally showing up, and that was used as the justification for shutting it down (if the claims were true, it should have been shut down).

But it was way more complex than simply a CP subreddit getting shut down for CP. The amount of baseless rumors running around was ridiculous.

user-inactivated  ·  2768 days ago  ·  link  ·  

A pedo is a pedo, fuck them.

user-inactivated  ·  2767 days ago  ·  link  ·  

A pedophile is someone who is sexually interested in prepubescent children.

Since the subreddit was about teenagers, the term you're looking for is Ephebophilia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

    Ephebophilia is the primary or exclusive adult sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19.

    Ephebophilia strictly denotes the preference for mid-to-late adolescent sexual partners, not the mere presence of some level of sexual attraction.

    However, the term pedophilia is commonly and mistakenly used to refer to any sexual interest in minors below the legal age of consent, regardless of their level of physical or mental development.[

How many men here wouldn't have sex with a 17-18 y/o if they could be assured no social problems? It's important to maintain some level of rigor in these discussions, otherwise you start doing things like treating sexual interest with a 17 y/o in the same manner as with a 5 y/o. One of those deserves more scrutiny.

user-inactivated  ·  2766 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You must be from Reddit

exNihilo  ·  2768 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    It wasn't a CP subreddit, it was a subreddit full of fully clothed teenage girls.

Presented fully for the prurient interests of the creeps and pedos who ran that place. It was there for the sexual gratification of its viewers. It wasn't weird and a little creepy, it was disgusting and degrading.

    But it was way more complex than simply a CP subreddit getting shut down for CP.

It wasn't shut down for CP. It was shut down because it made reddit look bad when it got substantial amount of bad PR because of it. The reddit admins knew their position was indefensible and crumbled as soon as a light got shone on it. Before they always cried about free speech.

Reddit has always been disgusting. Look how they allowed a subreddit like /r/creepshots to exist, under the justification of free speech and how women in public should have no expectation to privacy. And yet, when one of their moderators got doxxed, suddenly privacy matters.

Outset  ·  2768 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The fact remains, 4chan hasn't allowed jailbait for many years now and it took the name of reddit as a site being dragged through the dirt extensively for the admins to finally decide that banning sexualized content of minors would be a good thing.

Oh, and to correct exNihilo here, it took reddit being featured on Anderson Cooper and a threatened press mailbombing campaign from /r/ShitRedditSays and SomethingAwful to get jailbait subreddits banned.

user-inactivated  ·  2767 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't pay attention to 4chan, so I wasn't aware of that.

I understand the real reasons for it getting banned, I was more correcting the idea that it was as simple as a bunch of people posting CP and it getting banned for it.

al  ·  2768 days ago  ·  link  ·  

well the technicality of what CP is and what it isn't really depends on your nations laws, for example in england if an image of a person under 18 is being used for sexual purposes clothed or not it is illegal, however I believe in america is it true they have to be partially nude for it to count as pornography? forgive me if I am a little ignorant of your laws

user-inactivated  ·  2767 days ago  ·  link  ·  

They also have to be under a specific age of consent, which changes from state to state. I believe it ranges from 14-16 with 16 being the norm.

The thing is, while it isn't socially acceptable to be sexually attracted to a 14 y/o when you're 25+(and lets be honest, that's fucking young), a 14 y/o is still sexually mature from a physical standpoint. That is not CP, creepy yes, but not CP.

al  ·  2765 days ago  ·  link  ·  

well maybe not physically, but legally it still remains- and as a belief I think that it is not the physical maturity alone that allows the relationship to be adult but the mental maturity which doesn't directly correlate with physical/sexual, for example as a 13 yr old I would have been totally capable of having sex with a legal adult physically, however it is important that society recognises that the reason that would be wrong is not only due to the lack of complete sexual/physical maturity but the ability to make decisions which are of that degree of importance

user-inactivated  ·  2762 days ago  ·  link  ·  

absolutely true and I won't disagree with that.

But my initial foray into this conversation was because of the portrayal of /r/jailbait as being CP, which it isn't.