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saldejums  ·  3858 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Should a high school diploma be required to vote?

It is utterly stupid. Firstly, nobody has ever became nice by force. There are no decent people to vote for. My country's population 55% are left leaning, but we have never had leftist party since USSR fell. Your nationalistic teachers never tell who killed millions of jews, deported millions of natives and recolonized the land, they simply say "communism" or "socialism". Those are two terms derogated to synonyms.

I am aware that in The land of the Free you have only two parties at all - what on earth a choice is that?

Take a look at Russia, Belarus. The voting there is for idiots who still think that they count. No electorate matters there, the elections are clearly rigged, just like in most of Africa.

I do not vote since there is nobody who represents my values and there will never be anybody who represents all my values, who listens my problems and who cares enough. I do not want to participate in your rigged elections.

I despise your fascist regime and fascist ideas.





pseydtonne  ·  3857 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Uhh... okay. I honestly have no idea how to respond to that.

I hope you feel better after all that ranting. Would you like a beer?

You must not be the only person wanting to explode at me. You got three dots so far.

saldejums  ·  3857 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I honestly have no idea how many dots I have. I use that zen setting thing and like to be oblivious to this election.

I just find your point of view offensive. Firstly it is immoral to exclude somebody from elections because he does not have highschool diploma - we all live in the same pot and we all should be equal part of the soup. If we even further ban electorate - immigrants, sex offenders, people who use instagram, far leftists, far rightists, muslims, blacks - the election becomes pointless elite gathering. We all should be equal and nobody should float on top. Those who want to get to the power and equally those who want to help people will find how to promote themselves. Protip: good ideas do not need advertisements, they are spoken about.

On the other hand, if there are nobody who represents ANY of my values at all, I am not exaggerating, my country does not have any party that even thinks of leaning left, who should I vote for? Why should I waste my time, energy and life to go and elect "the lesser evil" who will continue his fascist oppression and command everybody when and how to vote, how to think and who to hate? "You are scum because you do not vote" is invalid. I cannot find the source to prove, but in some European countries if notable part of population boycotts or ignores the elections, it is considered civil disobedience and new government can't be formed. Heck, the Belgians lived 591 days without government!

If you ran a government, oh you would have a hard time running it.

We should free and liberate people, make lives easier, take care of the things what people do not want to do every day, like fighting in wars, repairing roads, collect their own wheat every day, put in sewer system and worry if they will not freeze in winter or if they will be saved in spring floods. Forcing yourself on others is wrong. If you have your representative and think that he knows better what you want, how to care for you, how make your life easier - go on and vote. Forcing me to vote for your idea? I do not want to be responsible for somebody I do not know, if I doubt his good intentions, if I know that he had acted against my ideals and values.

As Boris Yeltsin supposedly said, "You can build a throne with bayonets, but you can't sit on it long."

/Yet I am only some random creep on the internet who does not like oppression, dictatorship and fascism you propagate/

pseydtonne  ·  3857 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Let's be clear: I am not the person promoting a high school diploma requirement.

Stagnant_Pig proposed the question, and did not even assert agreement with it. I am opposed to the high school requirement. Please check which chain you are following when you reply.

Second of all, why do you need there to be a party for you to vote for someone? We vote for individuals. Sure, we get some weird examples such as H. Ross Perot, who ran with only the vaguest of party affiliations. I suppose Bored Billionaire Party wasn't all that catchy, but it wasn't Democrat or Republican.

I spoke against fascism and you accuse me of it. You accuse me of my opponent's stance and built a straw man smorgasbord. Please review. Please check to whom you reply.

saldejums  ·  3857 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sorry for misunderstanding. Have a nice day :)

lil  ·  3857 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hey Saldejums, If you are indeed from Belarus, I heard that it is terrible there from a recent migrant to Canada. I asked her why she wanted to leave Belarus and she had a long list of awfulness. She and her husband were both doctors in Belarus and she said they were paid very little and treated badly, she said that you have elections but IT IS NOT DEMOCRACY. She waited 8 years to immigrate and then had great difficulty becoming a doctor in Canada. It's very hard for her here, but she feels more free.

I understand very little about Belarus, but I have no doubt that it is as you say:

    I do not vote since there is nobody who represents my values and there will never be anybody who represents all my values, who listens my problems and who cares enough