You know, at the start of the year I was arguing a lot with kleinbl00 that there was hope for the red states, the problem was just that the Left had stopped talking to them so they only heard from the Right so they blame their suffering under capitalism on the government, brown people and college kids instead. Now every other editorial I see posted anywhere is about how the Left needs to start talking to the hinterlands again, but I'm no longer convinced there's hope for us. I'll still volunteer when the opportunity presents itself, because fighting is better than hiding in a corner, but I'm learning hard towards attrition and demographic shifts being the only way we're going to join the 21st century. It's not going to happen, but I wouldn't blame the West Coast for walking away in the slightest.