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user-inactivated  ·  2708 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: I wish we could all be Californian - NYT Sunday

    I wish we could all be Californian.

I don't.

Look for more of these types of articles in the coming months. The Press lives in a very well defended bubble; Trump's election cracked that wall. There are a lot, and I mean a LOT of tech people and media people who think that the entire USA is California, Seattle, Brooklyn and Austin, forgetting that there are 100+ million Americans who still live outside the major cities and don't care about Silicon Valley and tech startup culture.

The Democrats lost in part because they abandoned the 50 state strategy. This is why I make calls and talk to the people now begging me for money that we need Howard Dean back in charge.





kleinbl00  ·  2708 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    There are a lot, and I mean a LOT of tech people and media people who think that the entire USA is California, Seattle, Brooklyn and Austin and are more than willing to forget the 100+ million Americans who still live outside the major cities and don't care about Silicon Valley and tech startup culture.

^^^^FTFY

Enjoy your corn and soy.

jadedog  ·  2706 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I wish we could all be Californian.

    I don't.

Based on his utopian mythology, 38.5% of Californians don't wish to be Californians. That's not a tiny minority. According to the author, only people who voted for Clinton need apply for that position, even if they are already Californians.

What strikes me about these types of articles is how non-inclusive the proponents of inclusion can be when the people don't agree with them.

user-inactivated  ·  2707 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You know, at the start of the year I was arguing a lot with kleinbl00 that there was hope for the red states, the problem was just that the Left had stopped talking to them so they only heard from the Right so they blame their suffering under capitalism on the government, brown people and college kids instead. Now every other editorial I see posted anywhere is about how the Left needs to start talking to the hinterlands again, but I'm no longer convinced there's hope for us. I'll still volunteer when the opportunity presents itself, because fighting is better than hiding in a corner, but I'm learning hard towards attrition and demographic shifts being the only way we're going to join the 21st century.

It's not going to happen, but I wouldn't blame the West Coast for walking away in the slightest.

kleinbl00  ·  2707 days ago  ·  link  ·  

1) Obama begins the long and protracted battle against gerrymandering and vote disenfranchisement

2) Republicans do as republicans do

3) Democrats run Kamala Harris in 2020

Here's the thing: I don't think the "red states" belong to the Republicans. I think the "red states" belong to anyone that can help the red states. The entire media narrative has been about these poor white folx in their shitholes in the flyover states vs. these not-poor white folx in their mcmansions and while very, very few can explain "neoliberal globalization" they certainly get the sense that (1) it's bad (2) Clinton is all about it.

In theory, it shouldn't be hard for the democratic party to speak to the people at the expense of the elite. In practice, we trusted the adults to run this thing and the adults shit the bed.