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VETO AWAY dude. I'll be happy. Even Ray can get back on the table. So to speak. It will be night anyway and a view of the BIG DARK SEA with twinkling of yachts is -- meh at best. Although Seattle darkness might have a unique northwest quality. NOTE: If we make this happen, it will be my fifth hubski meetup, each one in a different city (Vancouver, Detroit, LA, Toronto, Seattle) (although I admit the Vancouver/Surrey meetup was just forwardslash and me, but still, eh? Also, I have a something planned for this meetup related to mk and thenewgreen. Only _refugee_ knows so far and she is keeping it her own witchy secret. Right ref?