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kleinbl00  ·  3421 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Self-driving cars can be fooled by fake signals

Those are fantastic images. I'd love to see more.

I think we can both agree that if Google had a choice between "my version" and "your version" they'd choose "my version." I think we can also both agree that Google has incentive and resources to make "my version" a reality on a timeline complimentary to an autocar rollout - it's not like Google's business model favors low bandwidth. Finally, 750MBps isn't necessary for the discussion -

- (victim) - critical LIDAR error detected - error code - error values (100k or less)

- (adjacent vehicles) - LIDAR query - state - coarse data (100k or less) x however many vehicles are adjacent

- cross-check 100k of data with a half-dozen 100k datasets - not a lot of server time.

I reckon my read isn't too far outside the parameters of "doable" particularly when we're discussing 3G bandwidth and a reasonable response time in seconds. I mean, the car will slow down. The smart move is to assume the operational parameters of the autodrive are compromised and forward motion should be curtailed and the routine should go into failover. But the loop from failover through error correction and backup analysis is a tenths-of-seconds to seconds-scale problem and in the meantime, Google has fired up a digital flare saying "something is fucked up about this intersection."

So whatever reason you had to spoof the LIDAR, you'd best act quick... and you'd best act on the assumption you're on Candid Camera.