In this conversation I am only an observer. I have nothing to offer except contradicting articles and newspaper anecdotes. I don't think that taking your clothes off for money is bad in the same way that I don't feel that lying is necessarily. Often both can be. But I'd also like to celebrate sexuality and freedom; I don't believe the base act of taking your clothes off and dancing sexy is bad. Does it become bad when you enter money into it? Well if you are talented shouldn't you get some sort of recognition for that? Or shouldn't you be allowed to ask for it, at least? Money is one kind of recognition/reward. However, I think a lot of people dehumanize strippers because of what they do, both the actual act of stripping, and beacuse of what the people who go to stripping are looking for. I think some people get off on anonymity of visiting strippers; after all you don't head into a strip club with a specific stripper in mind that you want to see, right? It's just "strippers." Any 'un 'ull do. So I'm tied.