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Is everyone here a reffugee from reddit?

by ickisthekiller
posted 613 days ago · shared by: 37
Just curious. I see many familiar faces.


by zerg 613 days ago  ·  link
I'm going to stick around and see how it is.

I learned so much in the earlier years of reddit. It solidified my position for atheism and educated me in many useful topics that were never covered in school, or at least not in a way I understood it.

I like that there doesn't seem to be a downvote button.

by JackPaper 613 days ago  ·  link
The lack of a downvote button is a good thing in the short term, but it can also be a powerful tool for removing idiots from the conversation. /r/askscience for example wouldn't be able to function without one.
by Standard_Nerd 613 days ago  ·  link
Loads of potential here! For a while I've felt like reddit has been degrading, the content has become so inwardly focused, uninteresting, and repetitive. As others have stated, posts seem to be to gain attention rather than actually entertain or educate. The idea of eliminating the overarching frontpage that shows the most popular content, cumulative karma points, and simplifying the upvote/popularity system is a promising way of addressing the problems with reddit. Hopefully hubski can avoid having popular users mimick the problem of popular subreddits drowning out good content.
by xzarankh 613 days ago  ·  link
I'm done with imgur and memes. And this is when I have already spent hours drilling down to the right subreddits.

Also, If I see someone posting Chuck Testa here, I'm going to punch them in their testes.

by thenewgreen 572 days ago  ·  link
It's been 40 days, still no Chuck Testa. I think the coast is clear.
by Freshmaker 538 days ago  ·  link
NOPE
by thenewgreen 538 days ago  ·  link
NOPE the coast isn't clear or NOPE you're not a refugee?.... or is it some sort of anagram? PONE? EPON? Abbreviation?.... National Organization of Pathological Equestrians?
by winston 500 days ago  ·  link
Open?
by JackPaper 613 days ago  ·  link
I am. reddit has disappointed me. Modern reddit seems more about the "look at me" mentality than anything else. People copy/paste comments like it's Youtube for points. Can't count the times I've seen "shut up and take my money" by now. There's nothing wrong with memetic humour, but reddit just doesn't understand the "mutation" part anymore.
by Egg_Go_Boom 550 days ago  ·  link
I'm 10 days shy of my 4th Reddit birthday. Not much karma, because I usually just read and then follow interesting links.

It's getting to where you have to wade through a lot of crap to find something interest there. I'll still go there, but I wanted to see what this is all about.

by winston 500 days ago  ·  link
It's all about content and how easy the "good" stuff is to get to. Right? I'm giving Hubski a try but I'll still check out Reddit too. --Old habits die hard.
by mk 548 days ago  ·  link
Welcome EGB. That was a big part of my motivation.

Feel free to send any feedback you might have along.

by Hein 275 days ago  ·  link

What's Reddit?

by wryme 613 days ago  ·  link
I remain active in both communities.

I use reddit to stay updated on major topics in the more intelligent subreddits -- timely things like news and current events, scientific discoveries/breakthroughs, and modern politics.

Hubski seems like a community more involved in a larger variety of interesting topics found around the web, less concerned with concrete events and more interested in thoughtful articles ("a thoughtful web" is a fitting tagline).

I like Hubski because it hasn't developed a singular "voice" (yet; this still remains tentative). It is still developing a personality, and its members are still testing the waters. Personally I hope this period of Hubski's development lasts as long as possible, but realistically I'm not so sure how sustainable it is.

by mk 613 days ago  ·  link
>I like Hubski because it hasn't developed a singular "voice" (yet; this still remains tentative). It is still developing a personality, and its members are still testing the waters. Personally I hope this period of Hubski's development lasts as long as possible, but realistically I'm not so sure how sustainable it is.

Just to let you know, this issue is very important to me. Actually, it's probably my biggest goal/concern. That's a part of why I just pushed this update: http://hubski.com/pub?id=5046

Let me know if you think we are slipping. :)

by turtlestack 613 days ago  ·  link
Reddit used to be a place where I could find a lot of great links to a wide variety of topics. Those days are mostly long gone but Hubski is looking like it's shaping up real nice.

Personally I've never been good at (or fast enough) to find and post links since I don't want to spend my day digging through endless rss feeds and irrelevant google alerts - I just want a site that has all the good stuff already posted - so I'm a little wary of the "power user" format here, however, as long as the content is good, I have to say I'm already sold on the idea of Hubski.

by mk 613 days ago  ·  link
Well, if you can find a number of good people to follow, they'll do that digging for you. :) Welcome, btw!
by orbat 612 days ago  ·  link
Isn't following specific people going to give you a very narrow view of things, though? Of course we can always just follow a wide variety of people (eve ones we don't agree with) but I just feel like this could easily lead to a kind of "echo chamber" mentality where people only get exposed to things they agree with. And if the amount of followers affects how visible your posts are, won't that lead to a digg-like power user scenario?

Oh, and great job with the site. I especially like the clean and simple layout

by mk 612 days ago  ·  link
Thanks orbat. So far it doesn't seem to be going that way. Some good hubskiers not only post eclectic stuff, but make sure to share it when they find it. For example, cgod is someone I follow that not only posts a good variety of topics, but also shares oddities. Sometimes I share things not because I agree or don't, but because I like the conversation that is going on. It's definitely something we'll keep our eye on, and we have a few ideas for alternate mechanisms of discovery, but only time will tell.

My hope is that there will always be a competition to be the most interesting content sharer. If an echo-chamber begins to form, hopefully there will be those that will maintain hubs that run counter to it. If you only follow these people, you should be able to escape the chamber to a large extent. Comments may be another issue, however, and I think creative solutions might be required there eventually. We'll see.

by the_misogynist 613 days ago  ·  link
I still go to Reddit, mostly because r/beatingwomen.
by bionics 530 days ago  ·  link
Digging the site a lot so far and agree with most of the sentiment on "wading through crap, etc." Also dislike how a well-written article can get infinitely more downvoted than a picture of a household cat rolling around in snow proclaiming it loves cocaine. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with the former... but still...
by tonycarolina 400 days ago  ·  link
Short answer seems to be "yes" in my case.
by chuckthe 613 days ago  ·  link
I am a (potential) convert here to check things out looking for relief from karma-whoring and content that rots my brain.

I am curious to know if hubski is made by people who were also tired of what reddit has now become.

by mk 613 days ago  ·  link
I've been a Redditor for 4.5 years, and the time I spend there has declined. But no, Hubski wasn't made for that reason, -although it must have influenced me. TBH, I have a lot of respect for what has been accomplished at and by Reddit, and I admire the relationship the founders had with the community.

Right now, I'm focusing on Hubski for what it is.

by ickisthekiller 608 days ago  ·  link
I'm really liking your site.
by SarcasmOrgasm 613 days ago  ·  link
Another Redditor here. This is mostly my escape from memes and reddits front page. I come here when I want to focus on intelligent discussion and good articles. Don't get me wrong though, Reddit is still great. You just have to find the right subreddits.
by RubyRhod 613 days ago  ·  link
Even then I find too much of the popular front page reposts and basic silly meme's popping up on them.
by UserSince1996 612 days ago  ·  link
Yep I'm the same way; I'll never leave Reddit because of the small subreddits which interest me, for example r/worldmusic . If Hubski gets big enough to have an active #worldmusic tag, well then I guess I'll check both every day!

Right now this feels more like r/truereddit than r/truereddit , which has slipped enormously. I think through the pick-and-choose fashion of the hubs, we'll have the choice to keep it that way. If someone starts submitting garbage, just unfollow them.

by kleinbl00 612 days ago  ·  link
pssst -

The way to get an active #worldmusic tag is by submitting quality stuff with a #worldmusic tag...

by UserSince1996 612 days ago  ·  link
You're right... there's that problem on some social media sites where you're worried about bombarding people with too many links. I see the centrepiece of this site as long-form journalism and academic articles, and apart from an initial burst of activity I've tried to ease it up with the YouTube links... really no reason to, I guess. If people want that kind of stuff, they'll follow. If not, they won't.
by kleinbl00 612 days ago  ·  link
Here's my thinking.

Sites such as this exist to provide a place for people to share and discuss content. Therefore, from the "people" side of things, you should share and discuss that which interests you. If you have tastes complementary to others, they will partake in your sharing and discussion. From the "site" side of things, the goal is to make this sharing and discussion as pleasant and efficient as possible - the more transparency, the better.

Reddit is falling because the transparency went away. Reddit is in no way about sharing and discussing any longer; it's about points. Further, since positive and negative points are possible, it's become a battle arena. Its the social network equivalent of Eve Online.

Hubski has an opportunity to differentiate itself from that model by keeping the focus on the people and the facilitation and downplaying the overhead. But this is alpha-test stuff, and as such, I'm approaching it as an alpha tester.

The way I used to use Reddit was to go through my RSS feeds and submit anything I found interesting, or I thought others would find interesting. Then, as Reddit grew, I found myself searching for anything on my RSS feeds on Reddit, because someone else had probably already submitted it. For the past year, I've been ignoring my RSS feeds because while the stuff that interests me hasn't been submitted most of the time, it's also been brutally downvoted by a bunch of people with time on their hands and the attention span of gnats.

So the way I'm using Hubski is the way I used to use Reddit - find stuff that's interesting in my RSS feeds and post it.

Which right now means that a whole bunch of people who are "following" me are going to get a firehose of #architecture and #business on weekday mornings. My understanding is that if they don't click the dot, they don't see it for long... but for a while, they get a heapin' helpin' of stuff that may not interest them. In the grand scheme of things, no big deal. Site-side, though, it's a potential bug. So I keep doing what I'm doing because users will never conform to a flawed site architecture (Reddit's architecture favors trolls, and as soon as there wasn't the staff to hand-pick and weed through the trolls, they took over), the site can conform to the users. This is the nature of organic design.

Perhaps what we need is a "-#" - for example, you could "#" kleinbl00 and "-#" architecture. Or "#" UserSince1996 and "-#" worldmusic. Maybe something like:

#"kleinbl00 -architecture"

#"Usersince1996 -worldmusic"

Maybe I submit that to #bugski for thought purposes.

by mk 612 days ago  ·  link
Damn that Usersince1996 and his worldmusic! :)

That's an interesting idea kleinbl00. It's a layer of complexity, so I will be very cautious about my decision to implement it, but the idea itself (and the expressed need) is good food for thought.

At the same time, we might just find that those that follow you do appreciate your posting style, and those that don't, won't. Or, alternatively, someone like myself could serve as a #"kleinbl00 -architecture filter. I might follow you and share a good number of your posts, but not those that concern architecture.

At any rate, I'm going to keep this in mind as we see how things play out. It might be a good strategy to address issues that arise as you mentioned.

by kleinbl00 612 days ago  ·  link
I applaud anyone sensible enough to resist rolling out solutions to problems that don't exist yet.
by atmo 612 days ago  ·  link
An interesting suggestion, and something I fancy plenty of my twitter followers would appreciate. I am an Android blogger, but also happen to tweet a lot about eSports which I'm sure is of no interest to quite a few people. However, this is more feasible on hubski because of the mandatory post tagging.
by learningwebs 612 days ago  ·  link
Recent reddit refugee here, and liking it so far.

The part of what kleinbl00 says that resonates is this: I'm probably not going to be interested in following too many people, because I already have a long list of them that I "follow" elsewhere (i.e., Glenn Greenwald, Amy Goodman, etc.)

Reddit's double-edged greatness/weakness is its subject-oriented approach. And I think if hubski grows into quality, it will be because it finds a creative way to go that direction without ghettoization.

Tagging is a good start. I don't think it'll scale well on its own, though. I'll keep thinking on it and watching what happens, and if I come up with anything more intelligent to say, I'll keep you posted. ; )

Edit: Not OP, but kleinbl00

by ickisthekiller 608 days ago  ·  link
Am I actually agreeing with you? I'll leave the trolling to reddit. Truce?
by kleinbl00 608 days ago  ·  link
A gentle reminder - my only problem with your posse - I have no problem with you - was that you guys don't really know when to say when. Once you had been adequately dissuaded from attacking Youngluck (subjective, and wholly my point of view) I lost interest in persecuting you.

So from my perspective, I've had a "truce" for months now. If you want to make it two-sided, so much the better.

by giveuptheghost 582 days ago  ·  link
redditor here, checkin in!
by alex 613 days ago  ·  link
Yes, another reddit refugee here. Not sure I have much good content to share though. Almost all my reddit contributions were in comments. It kind of reminded me of the good old BBS days of the 80s and 90s. But yes, quality has declined.
by ickisthekiller 608 days ago  ·  link
I usually just comment as well. I like this stripped down, simpler version of essentially the same thing as opposed to reddit. This site is fast becoming my new favorite.
by caio 608 days ago  ·  link
I'm not. http://tinyurl.com/nuo3zw

I've never been to reddit. It's just not that big where I live. http://tinyurl.com/yzbm8p7

I found hubski through thnewgreen's comment on TED. http://tinyurl.com/3ftbb3j

by thenewgreen 605 days ago  ·  link
caio, this makes me happy. Having you around the Hubski community has been great, it makes me glad that I started that TED conversation.
by TIYP 588 days ago  ·  link
Love me some Python, I need to watch Life of Brian again.
by winston 500 days ago  ·  link
Great, great film. I think I need to revisit it too.
by js 606 days ago  ·  link
Original Digg user, turned Reddit back in early 2007. Then Reddit was flourishing with great and interesting content, even in the now popular subreddits, trees, TIL, and a few others. Come late 2009 early 2010 I noticed a trend of garbage content. I heard about this website recently, maybe a month ago. It reminds me of old Reddit. Hopefully Hubski stays around.
by mk 606 days ago  ·  link
Here to stay. :)
by thenewgreen 292 days ago  ·  link
Still here. What do you make of the recent events at Digg? Strange days.
by iamah 613 days ago  ·  link
You can leave Reddit but it won't leave you...
by TheShadowFog 560 days ago  ·  link
Yes.

I like both sites.

by mk 613 days ago  ·  link
I guess I qualify. :) However, I still swing by from time to time.
by RubyRhod 613 days ago  ·  link
I am, and as a new user I was curious if there was some sort of etiquette when posting? I looked through the FAQ and such and did not see anything. I can see that it seems to be a community where we do not want meme's but useful information and insightful articles, but I do not want to step on any toes or anything!
by akbryant54 613 days ago  ·  link
http://hubski.com/about

If you've read that I think you're good. I'm new too, but I haven't seen any etiquette section besides that... I'd say the best idea is to avoid any behavior similar to "karma-whoring" and focus on providing quality content, if possible.

by joetromboni 520 days ago  ·  link
so fag
by ickisthekiller 491 days ago  ·  link
so true
by almackska 548 days ago  ·  link
Reddit never recovered from the Great Digg migration and the 4Chan border hopping scandal
by perceptron 612 days ago  ·  link
Ruin ALL of reddit!
by ickisthekiller 608 days ago  ·  link
lol what's to ruin?
by lessismore 613 days ago  ·  link
Maybe... just maybe..
by beezneez 613 days ago  ·  link
Correct.
by rfugee 613 days ago  ·  link
mmyeah
by mikkowus 613 days ago  ·  link
Yup. I am.
by mikkowus 613 days ago  ·  link
Yup. I am
by End3r 613 days ago  ·  link
Yes, we'll see how it goes.


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